From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: require GNU make to build emacs? Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:09:40 -0800 Message-ID: <200802260109.m1Q19eE5018561@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <200802242344.m1ONihq5014668@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802250522.m1P5Mf94012696@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203988254 7075 80.91.229.12 (26 Feb 2008 01:10:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 26 02:11:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JToLl-0003Dc-CA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:11:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JToLF-00064K-9j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:10:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JToLC-00064D-9H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:10:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JToLA-00063x-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:10:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JToLA-00063t-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:10:40 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JToL5-00063o-UU; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:10:36 -0500 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1204592981.75381@JWtSIk/u3ylL0cQin8iqfQ Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1Q19eE5018561; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:09:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:29:15 +0200") Original-Lines: 25 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:90450 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > From: Dan Nicolaescu > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:22:41 -0800 > > > > Yes, IMO there's a good reason. Being able to use conditionals, > > includes, and other advanced features should allow us to avoid using the > > C preprocessor to create Makefiles Does it make any sense to discuss this now? Doubtful... > The way to avoid using cpp is to autoconfiscate our configury, so that > the configure script produces src/Makefile from src/Makefile.in. (Not > that I think this is such an urgent task, given that the current setup > works so well and that the rate of new OSes and/or changes in the > existing OSes is so low lately.) Or we could just split the s/* m/* files into C header files and real makefiles. I would just mean change the syntax from C to make for the part that is actually intended to be used in makefiles. Of course the proof that this is indeed possible is in the details, but it seems that there's a good changes.