From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:55:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200802211555.m1LFtn5k015636@jane.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zltvuy7d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203649677 12566 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2008 03:07:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, miles@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 22 04:08:20 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JSOGo-0001vp-3Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:08:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSOGJ-0006KG-06 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSDnS-00070a-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JSDnQ-0006zJ-S6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JSDnQ-0006zC-P0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:16 -0500 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JSDnJ-0002wS-B2; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (jane.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.201]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1LFuhpD023618; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:56:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jane.dms.auburn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m1LFtoZK015639; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:55:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by jane.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) id m1LFtn5k015636; Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:55:49 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: jane.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 21 Feb 2008 04:16:15 -0500) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:00 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89912 Archived-At: A similar use occurs with M-> and M-< (mark is set but region is not active). I wonder if it might be worthwhile to have "big jump" motion deactivate the region. Right now, M-< neither activates the mark nor deactivates it. Are you suggesting that it should deactivate the mark instead? That would make a difference when you use it when the mark is active. Is that what people want? _Definitely_ not. I often use M-< and friends to define a region in situations where using non-"big jump" commands would be super-cumbersome and time consuming. I often _want_ commands to operate on a huge region and it is hard for me to imagine that nobody else ever does. Sincerely, Luc Teirlinck.