From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Don Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug trackers Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:27:32 -0800 Message-ID: <20080219232732.GC18902@jax.donarmstrong.com> References: <20080218052546.GK13020@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20080218232829.GM5438@volo.donarmstrong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203474777 21592 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 02:32:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:32:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 03:33:21 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRels-0002yN-2b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:33:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRelN-0001ku-87 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:32:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRbsT-0007z1-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRbsT-0007yV-Ia for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRbsT-0007yM-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:57 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRbsS-0000cr-Si for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:27:57 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m1JNRrEB016860 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:27:53 -0800 Original-Received: (from remotemail@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m1JNRqJ2016859 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:27:53 -0800 Original-Received: (nullmailer pid 6065 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:27:32 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:32:08 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89635 Archived-At: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Richard Stallman wrote: > What I kind of imagine is that bits of emacs which are relatively > separate would end up with their own "package" and this mailing list > (or the people responsible?) would be primarily tasked with fixing and > resolving them. > > The issue here is to consider using a bug tracker. To change the way > we package Emacs would be a completely different issue (and I don't > think we should do so). Definetly; my point wasn't about changing the way emacs is developed (if a bug tracker were to cause you to do that, it's probably the wrong one to use). > What leads you to raise the question of packaging in relation to > using a bug tracker? Debbugs currently is based on the assumption that every bug is assigned to at least one package. In terms of a distribution, this makes perfect sense, but it's different for applications. When you're developing a single application like emacs, I'd imagine you'd separate bugs into "components" or similar of the application, like "gtk interface", "documentation", or "elisp" (as examples; you all'd come up with better ones.) That's really done just to help organize bugs, but is kind of fundamental to debbug's internals. Don Armstrong -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu