From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA-mode features and documenation Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:11:03 -0800 Message-ID: <200802151711.m1FHB3Y3008798@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> References: <000d01c86c82$700dccc0$7051908d@us.oracle.com> <200802121430.m1CEUc6k013361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <002601c86d8a$a0454db0$405a908d@us.oracle.com> <87tzkdnkee.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ir0sonaa.fsf_-_@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <200802131623.m1DGNrls003614@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87odakwl2r.fsf@jurta.org> <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <878x1ov227.fsf@jurta.org> <878x1os6mt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <47B39231.8010108@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203095630 4651 80.91.229.12 (15 Feb 2008 17:13:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, miles@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 15 18:14:12 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JQ48T-0000c3-Hp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:14:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ47z-0008Tj-76 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:13:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ47u-0008Sd-Q4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ47u-0008Ro-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JQ47u-0008Rl-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from sallyv1.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.109]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JQ47m-0002vA-SO; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:13:23 -0500 X-ICS-MailScanner-Watermark: 1203700264.72237@+Hl9lHGe+kEvPy6jP9+zJA Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by sallyv1.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m1FHB3Y3008798; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:11:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:10:55 -0500") Original-Lines: 24 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89169 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Is it not reasonable to assume that most new users expects and wants the > behaviour that cua-selection-mode gives? > > That is not the only relevant factor. > > What _exactly_ is this behavior? I do not use CUA mode. Please note that the discussion was about cua-selection-mode, not cua-mode. They are different: cua-selection-mode does not change the meaning of C-c/C-v/C-x. What cua-selection-mode provides is the: - transient-mark-mode - delete-selection-mode - S-ARROW_KEY extends the region (Probably some more, but this is the main functionality). This behavior is the default nowadays on the desktop, including in Gtk+/Gnome and KDE (also in XEmacs). BTW, before the pretest for 22.1 you were trying transient-mark-mode in order to enable it by default. What was the result of that experiment?