From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Horsley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: <20080207163641.2a67e1be@tomh> References: <8e24944a0802041302n45064c4fm2ac428ceda204254@mail.gmail.com> <47A80B57.3050402@swipnet.se> <8e24944a0802061957re4baf7cr9560fa3496be56b4@mail.gmail.com> <8e24944a0802070815n18dea273j5c3962235d91ca8e@mail.gmail.com> <87bq6sir34.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8e24944a0802071022i2b259c5fka14f191a3c519157@mail.gmail.com> <20080207160124.7eec9cdd@tomh> <8e24944a0802071318v23d0873dwe3017e0b78fc0178@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202420235 28404 80.91.229.12 (7 Feb 2008 21:37:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , "Jan D." , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org To: "David De La Harpe Golden" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 07 22:37:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JNER3-0001VS-J5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:37:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNEQa-0006fQ-VQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:37:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNEQX-0006f1-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:37:01 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JNEQW-0006ep-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:37:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JNEQW-0006em-5o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:37:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [12.192.68.2] (helo=users.ccur.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JNEQQ-0002Zt-JF; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:36:54 -0500 Original-Received: from tomh (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tomh.ccur.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m17Lafxi014288; Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:36:42 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8e24944a0802071318v23d0873dwe3017e0b78fc0178@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-Greylist: delayed 2119 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at monty-python; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:36:53 EST X-Greylist: delayed 2120 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at monty-python; Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:36:54 EST X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88463 Archived-At: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:18:43 +0000 "David De La Harpe Golden" wrote: > On 07/02/2008, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > Xterm only does PRIMARY. > > FWIW, that's not true of at least vaguely recent xterm - Holding down > ctrl-middlemouse should bring up a menu with a "select to clipboard" > option. Yuck. Perhaps I should have said it might as well only do PRIMARY, if I tie my fingers in knots I can get CLIPBOARD :-). Also I have no idea what vintage xterms are on some of the platforms I access, some of them are pretty old. > > I happen to think the invention of CLIPBOARD was perhaps the single > > most brain damaged idea ever foisted upon users by the singularly > > brain damaged group of folks who call themselves freedesktop, > > I realise that's probably slightly tongue in cheek, but CLIPBOARD > long pre-dates the freedesktop effort AFAIK. Some of the same people > might be involved I guess. Only a little :-). I think my brain operates in a nearly perfect anti-freedesktop parallel universe. It seems like every time I find some incredibly annoying behavior being adopted by everyone I eventually trace it back to some document on freedesktop.org (that's why I use the fvwm window manager for instance - it proudly refuses to be freedesktop compliant :-).