From: Mike Mattie <codermattie@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: ams@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:10:04 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080105171004.128cec58@reforged> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080105174008.2208B303F6@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:40:08 +0100 (CET)
"Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Expressions like "suffocatingly constrained web interface" are
> > too negative. Maybe you had a bad experience. I only can say that
> > I wish Emacs' Customize forms were more web-form-alike.
>
> I've had nothing but bad experience using web interfaces for
> anything but web browsing (in its narrow sense). "Suffocatingly
> constrained" accurately describes what I feel about these
> interfaces. A good comparison is that of Info documentation
> vs. the reading the same manual as html. I don't want to be forced
> to use a web interface, even a keyboard driven one, for reporting
> bugs. I can't be alone.
>
> You're not. "Suffocatingly constrained" describes such interfaces
> quite well.
>
> The nice thing about Emacs is that you have Emacs under your fingers.
> And not another program that works so differently that you start
> crying when you try to kill a region, you end up closing a tab with
> unsaved data (e.g. firefox).
I highly recommend firemacs. It's a firefox add-on that rebinds most
of the editing keys to Emacs defaults.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4141
> Or when you wish to save your bug report so you can send it later, no
> can do with a web browser, in Emacs (or mutt) you could just save your
> mail buffer for later editing and sending it when you feel you are
> done.
>
> And if something would crash during that session, you might just have
> a auto-save file around, again, not something a web browser can do.
>
>
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-04 16:44 Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-04 17:33 ` Andreas Röhler
2008-01-04 18:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-04 18:38 ` Gianluca Della Vedova
2008-01-05 14:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 18:50 ` Gianluca Della Vedova
2008-01-05 19:51 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-05 19:58 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 20:13 ` Sven Joachim
2008-01-05 20:28 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-06 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 22:39 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 19:57 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 22:29 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-07 11:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-04 19:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-04 19:40 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-04 23:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-05 0:44 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 1:23 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-05 2:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 16:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-05 19:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 19:12 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-05 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 20:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 21:55 ` Reiner Steib
2008-01-05 22:05 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-05 22:48 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 23:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 22:00 ` Bastien
2008-01-05 22:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 23:32 ` Bastien
2008-01-06 0:52 ` Bastien
2008-01-07 17:15 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-08 1:06 ` Bastien
2008-01-06 10:46 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-08 23:49 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-09 1:13 ` Leo
2008-01-09 1:48 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-09 1:28 ` Andrea Russo
2008-01-09 1:49 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-05 12:23 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-05 17:40 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-01-06 1:10 ` Mike Mattie [this message]
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 18:18 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 21:27 ` Jan Djärv
2008-01-06 21:35 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 6:56 ` Jan Djärv
2008-01-07 8:23 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 14:28 ` Bill Wohler
2008-01-10 4:11 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-05 22:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-05 22:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-05 23:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 23:20 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-06 17:13 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-06 20:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 22:17 ` Bastien
2008-01-05 5:20 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 11:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-05 14:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 15:51 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-05 16:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 19:58 ` Chris Ball
2008-01-05 20:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-05 21:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 23:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-06 16:38 ` email-based development (was:: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker) John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-01-05 8:51 ` Let a QA department into the works Andreas Röhler
2008-01-05 14:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 11:15 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 19:52 ` Andreas Röhler
2008-01-05 21:39 ` Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Bastien
2008-01-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 15:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-06 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 18:24 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 21:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 23:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 23:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-06 1:03 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 2:08 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-06 4:08 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 10:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-06 11:22 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 13:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-06 11:13 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 15:59 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-07 11:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 13:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-08 19:06 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-09 15:35 ` Bill Wohler
2008-01-06 4:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 5:30 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-07 14:40 ` Yavor Doganov
2008-01-10 4:23 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-10 6:46 ` Mark Linimon
2008-01-11 7:00 ` Bill Wohler
2008-01-11 15:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-11 20:42 ` Ralf Angeli
2008-01-11 21:25 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-11 22:41 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-11 23:14 ` Evans Winner
2008-01-13 8:35 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 20:02 ` Martin Geisler
2008-01-07 11:31 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 21:08 ` Eric S. Raymond
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