From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, esr@snark.thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, harsanyi@mac.com
Subject: Re: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:05:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801031805.m03I5SBf022748@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1JAMiL-00089Q-9i@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:50:13 -0500")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> I would go one step further: vc-dired should not be based on dired at
> all. 99% of the dired key bindings and functionality are not useful in
> vc-dired.
>
> Unifying them is a big advantag
>
> There may be reasons to separate them which outweigh the advantage
> of unification, but we should see them presented and weigh them
> before going in that direction.
The disadvantages or using dired:
- performance -- the difference is HUGE
- clutter - dired has 4 top level menus that are mostly useless in the
VC context
- availability of simple key bindings: dired takes most single key
bindings, forcing vc-dired to use the "v" prefix
- display flexibility -- it is much easier to do custom displays as
needed by VC using ewocs than to retrofit it into dired. Just look
at the PCL-CVS display and compare it with vc-dired.
- future extensibility - VC systems are evolving at a fast pace
nowadays, being able to easily make changes to accommodate new
features is very important.
So IMO, there's no reason to cling onto dired.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-03 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-28 17:45 Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-28 23:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-12-29 2:48 ` Alexandru Harsanyi
2007-12-29 11:45 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 2:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-02 2:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 4:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-02 4:45 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-02 11:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 17:31 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-03 18:05 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2008-01-03 18:19 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 9:01 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-05 14:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-06 10:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-06 15:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-18 23:31 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-06 20:00 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-06 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-07 2:59 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-07 3:26 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-07 3:36 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-07 3:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-07 12:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-07 15:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-07 11:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 12:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-07 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-08 19:06 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-08 19:34 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-07 3:22 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-07 3:03 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-07 4:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-07 21:15 ` PCL-CVS buffers (was: Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored) Reiner Steib
2008-01-08 2:33 ` PCL-CVS buffers Stefan Monnier
2008-01-18 23:46 ` Introducing 'unrecognized and 'ignored Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-19 0:10 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-19 1:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-19 6:00 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-19 17:05 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-19 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-19 21:01 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-20 17:18 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-20 20:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-20 17:08 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-20 19:08 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-20 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-20 19:45 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-22 1:35 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-19 20:03 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-20 19:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-20 20:30 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-21 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-21 15:30 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-21 15:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-21 15:34 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-06 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 11:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-02 22:11 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-02 23:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-03 14:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-03 17:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 5:54 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 23:13 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-02 23:33 ` Eric S. Raymond
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