From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>
Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:31:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071231153128.GD8641@thyrsus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lk7b0zg6.fsf@catnip.gol.com>
Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>:
> I suspect that 90% of the difference in "responsiveness" between the two
> projects has to do with the people (and numbers of people) involved, not
> with the tools being used.
I don't think those are separable -- I think Wesnoth has more developers
in significant part *because* its tools are better.
> Certainly the tools make _some_ difference, but I think ESR is
> drastically overestimating how much of one.
You may be right. But we won't know until we fix our toolset and see,
and fixing our toolset would have important benefits even at our
current scale.
--
<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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2007-12-30 12:22 What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-30 15:32 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-12-30 15:42 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-30 17:22 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-30 20:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-12-30 21:55 ` Nick Roberts
2007-12-30 22:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-30 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-30 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-31 2:58 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-31 12:14 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-01 23:57 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-01-02 1:46 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-12-31 22:29 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-01 0:19 ` Leo
2007-12-31 4:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-31 13:07 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-31 20:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-31 21:41 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-31 23:00 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-01 0:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-01 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-01 6:20 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-31 23:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-01 0:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-01 3:00 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-01 7:57 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-02 19:28 ` Agustin Martin
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 3:34 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-06 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-01 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-02 4:17 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-05 10:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-01 0:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-01 4:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-01 0:10 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-01 1:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-01 1:41 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-01 2:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-01 19:43 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-01 21:11 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-02 0:25 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-02 1:12 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-02 17:19 ` On-the-fly compiling (was Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like) Mark A. Hershberger
2008-01-02 20:57 ` On-the-fly compiling Stefan Monnier
2008-01-02 22:33 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-01-02 23:09 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-02 9:53 ` What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Richard Stallman
2008-01-01 11:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-01 20:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-02 0:29 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-02 4:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-02 4:33 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-02 8:24 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-01-02 8:20 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-03 13:15 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2008-01-04 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-02 8:41 ` tomas
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-03 10:16 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-05 5:55 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 6:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-05 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 19:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-06 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 8:55 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-05 9:55 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-01-05 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 15:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2008-01-05 15:39 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 9:51 ` tomas
2008-01-06 11:02 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 12:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-06 12:40 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 16:51 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-01-06 17:03 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 22:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 17:17 ` Gregory Collins
2008-01-07 23:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-08 0:25 ` Gregory Collins
2008-01-08 0:51 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-08 2:43 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-08 3:03 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-01-08 4:25 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-08 19:07 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-03 10:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-01 17:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-01 18:05 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-01-01 18:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-01 18:28 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-01-02 9:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 10:36 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-01-02 12:23 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-04 5:27 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 11:27 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-02 12:17 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-03 1:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-03 2:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-04 5:27 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-04 5:35 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-04 12:47 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 1:10 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-04 12:45 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 15:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-05 15:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-06 2:14 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-03 1:08 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-03 2:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-03 3:18 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-04 5:27 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-04 8:51 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-05 15:28 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-06 10:46 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 11:10 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 4:36 ` dhruva
2008-01-07 4:52 ` Sam Steingold
2008-01-07 5:09 ` dhruva
2008-01-07 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 15:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-07 15:47 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-07 17:09 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 15:40 ` CHENG Gao
2008-01-07 23:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-08 4:31 ` CHENG Gao
2008-01-08 5:07 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-08 2:56 ` Mike Mattie
2008-01-08 9:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-07 5:16 ` Jason Earl
2008-01-07 17:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 17:45 ` Gregory Collins
2008-01-08 19:07 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-08 19:50 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-13 20:06 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-14 11:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 21:28 ` Jason Earl
2008-01-07 8:15 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-07 8:33 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-07 23:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-05 21:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-06 18:08 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 9:35 ` Piet van Oostrum
2008-01-01 20:53 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-02 9:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 12:24 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 15:19 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-02 20:35 ` Karl Fogel
2008-01-02 19:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-02 19:23 ` Romain Francoise
2008-01-03 1:18 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-03 7:55 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-02 9:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 10:03 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-02 10:05 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-02 11:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-02 11:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-02 14:26 ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-01-02 19:48 ` Karl Fogel
2008-01-02 18:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-02 22:10 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-01-03 2:58 ` Karl Fogel
2008-01-03 1:21 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-03 9:14 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-03 10:57 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-01 19:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-01 21:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-01 22:49 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 17:05 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2008-01-03 9:49 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 8:35 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-02 5:54 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-01-02 11:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-03 9:50 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 8:51 ` tomas
2008-01-02 9:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-01 22:01 ` Romain Francoise
2007-12-31 13:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-12-31 13:24 ` Miles Bader
2007-12-31 13:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-12-31 15:45 ` Eric S. Raymond
2007-12-31 15:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-31 15:31 ` Eric S. Raymond [this message]
2007-12-31 15:25 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-01 20:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-01-01 20:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 9:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 12:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-02 12:59 ` dhruva
2008-01-02 13:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-02 13:17 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-02 13:49 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-04 5:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-04 7:03 ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-01-05 14:29 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-02 13:48 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-01-02 13:56 ` dhruva
2008-01-02 14:55 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-03 1:13 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-01-02 14:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-19 17:45 ` Jari Aalto
2008-01-20 2:59 ` dhruva
2008-01-20 5:10 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-20 5:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-20 6:03 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-20 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-20 20:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-20 20:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-20 20:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-21 2:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-21 2:38 ` Karl Fogel
2008-01-21 2:49 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-21 3:06 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-21 3:17 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-21 3:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-21 3:16 ` Glenn Morris
2008-01-21 4:11 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-21 10:00 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-01-21 2:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-21 3:01 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-21 9:07 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-21 15:51 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-21 17:37 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-21 17:53 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-21 20:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-21 19:50 ` Tom Tromey
2008-01-22 0:33 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-01-24 14:43 ` Mark A. Hershberger
2008-01-24 15:00 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-24 15:34 ` dhruva
2008-01-24 19:52 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-25 0:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-01-25 22:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-25 23:13 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-01-25 23:36 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-27 0:45 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-27 17:39 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-27 20:06 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-27 22:21 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-27 23:58 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-01-28 7:17 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 7:17 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 7:57 ` GNU Project [was: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like] Nick Roberts
2008-01-28 21:32 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 7:18 ` What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Richard Stallman
2008-01-28 7:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-01-28 9:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-01-28 21:32 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-26 1:23 ` Thomas Lord
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-01 3:09 Nick Roberts
2008-01-01 6:24 ` Eric S. Raymond
2008-01-03 20:32 Trey Jackson
2008-01-04 9:46 ` dhruva
2008-01-05 13:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-05 15:04 ` dhruva
2008-01-05 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-06 1:17 ` Miles Bader
2008-01-04 13:43 ` Gianluca Della Vedova
2008-01-05 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-06 5:03 ` Trey Jackson
2008-01-06 6:58 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-07 4:57 ` Trey Jackson
2008-01-07 5:54 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-06 18:09 ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-07 5:16 ` Trey Jackson
2008-01-07 6:15 ` Nick Roberts
2008-01-07 15:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-29 5:43 Werner LEMBERG
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