From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: scroll-conservatively default (was: Re: recenter-top-bottom) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:48:28 -0800 Message-ID: <200712020048.lB20mS9R002812@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196556701 24440 80.91.229.12 (2 Dec 2007 00:51:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 00:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 02 01:51:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iyd3l-0001dj-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:51:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyd3V-0000Ni-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:51:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyd3S-0000NT-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:51:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyd3Q-0000NH-Kq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:51:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iyd3Q-0000NE-EH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:51:28 -0500 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iyd3M-0002GP-Cf; Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:51:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB20mS9R002812; Sat, 1 Dec 2007 16:48:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:41:03 -0500") Original-Lines: 12 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84463 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I set `scroll-conservatively' to a large value just so it will always > be bigger than the screen height. This means, more or less, that if > Emacs can bring point onto the screen by scrolling, with even one line > of overlap with the old screen, it should do so. Then please let's do this by default. The current default of 0 for `scroll-conservatively' does not seem to be very helpful. I would also argue that the default for scroll-preserve-screen-position should also be changed.