From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Useless change in lisp.el? Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:33:33 +0100 Message-ID: <200711261933.34472.andreas.roehler@online.de> References: <200711251755.50891.andreas.roehler@online.de> <200711261914.34853.andreas.roehler@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196102254 590 80.91.229.12 (26 Nov 2007 18:37:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 26 19:37:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iwipl-000822-Dj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:37:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwipW-0000yY-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:37:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IwipS-0000xt-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:37:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IwipR-0000xc-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:37:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IwipR-0000xZ-4C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:37:09 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.174]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IwipQ-0005Fh-JZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:37:08 -0500 Original-Received: from noname (p54BE91FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.190.145.252]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwh2-1IwipP067v-00039L; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:37:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 In-Reply-To: <200711261914.34853.andreas.roehler@online.de> Content-Disposition: inline X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18qjdLlwVsNChALAfC9FoA+Eb280qPlQ4LaEbz igHEnX0UOEeNCgLzCtqE/J6TPH2YY7wDQ/5lJ3lbw9+kfaREZL 0Q5Va/ln4Va6M9v8f0Aow== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84156 Archived-At: Am Montag, 26. November 2007 19:14 schrieb Andreas R=F6hler: > Am Montag, 26. November 2007 16:09 schrieben Sie: > > > -The function (of no args) should go to the line on which the current > > > -defun starts, and return non-nil, or should return nil if it can't > > > -find the beginning.") > > > +The function takes the same argument as `beginning-of-defun' and > > > should +behave similarly, returning non-nil if it found the beginning > > > of a defun. +Ideally it should move to a point right before an > > > open-paren which encloses +the body of the defun.") > > > > > > As `beginning-of-defun-function' expressivly is > > > introduced for all possible function definitions, it > > > makes no sence to require or even to mention an open > > > paren. > > > > Sure it does: end-of-defun does basically > > "(progn (beginning-of-defun-raw) (forward-sexp)", so if > > beginning-of-defun-function stops right before an "open paren", > > end-of-defun will do the right thing. Otherwise, the programmer will > > have to supply his own end-of-defun-function. > > I read here > > (and (beginning-of-defun-raw arg) > (progn (beginning-of-line) t))) > No,just see I missed your point in this question. Anyway, it doesn't change the original case. Andreas=20