From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Testing new abbrev tables in elisp Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 22:06:52 +0100 Message-ID: <200711042206.53619.andreas.roehler@online.de> References: <200706201948.06271.andreas.roehler@online.de> <873avmloiw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194210355 8885 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2007 21:05:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , Richard Stallman , Juri Linkov , Stefan Monnier , Stephen Turnbull To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 04 22:05:57 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Iomex-0008Ds-DI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:05:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iomen-0003L7-0U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:05:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iomej-0003J3-Je for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:05:17 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Iomeh-0003Hj-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:05:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Iomeh-0003Hc-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:05:15 -0500 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iomea-0000hW-Ng; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:05:09 -0500 Original-Received: from noname (p54BEB053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.190.176.83]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu7) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML2xA-1Iome20GtZ-0005E8; Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:04:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 In-Reply-To: <873avmloiw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Content-Disposition: inline X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18VdGM2m7XOSkEhcZrMqRmfmXhh0+h5C/mA3T/ JdpQdBh8kYDGaeMAxMVDPNOrWu1vwhKk/htGNryABTPS03FK3O mQ9Df0nzTdeuEuxH9x/jg== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82519 Archived-At: Am Sonntag, 4. November 2007 03:42 schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull: > Richard Stallman writes: > > In fact (Richard, would you please confirm?) it may be a good idea > > to use the Lisp implementation as a base to avoid legal issues if it > > looks "too much like" XEmacs code (the problem is that AFAIK you have > > looked at the XEmacs code, so couldn't swear that it's not an > > unintentional copy of someone else's code). > > > > That is valid in general, but is it an issue here? Our old C code was > > written by me, mostly. > > Well, of course any code in Emacs has all the necessary papers. > > But as I understand it, Andreas wants to code in C so he can borrow > techniques he saw in the XEmacs code. It's fairly likely that code > varies significantly from your code. > The head of abbrev.c shows remarks concerning authors and displays GPL, everything looks fine for me. Maybe exists a precise reason not to use that code for GNU Emacs? XEmacs don't rely on single word abbrevs to be expanded, but takes several words too. That's of interest with NLP/translations and it's coded in C. As it's at stake to look back or forward, speed difference between Lisp and C execution might be significant. At least that idea was in my head... Thanks all Andreas R=F6hler