From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: isearch multiple buffers
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:41:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710261941.l9QJfcH0010503@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ufxzxsmvk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri\, 26 Oct 2007 21\:21\:19 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > Cc: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
> > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:16:26 -0700
> >
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> > > > Because the 8.3 name restriction has a negative effect for _all_
> > > > developers.
> > >
> > > What negative effects? can you show them in the archives? AFAIR, this
> > > is about the first such issue in years.
> >
> > Here are quite a few exmaples: go to http://search.gmane.org/ search
> > for 8.3 and use "gmane.emacs.devel" for "In group". It produces a good
> > amount of hits.
>
> All I see, in addition to this thread is the following:
>
> . An issue with foo-+.texi in June 2004
>
> . A couple of messages about ChangeLog-unicode in February 2005
>
> . A discussion back in August 2005 when MH-E was added to Emacs, and
> a related discussion in September that year about image files.
>
> . A comment by Kim Storm in June this year about renaming a single
> file.
>
> . A few other hits that have nothing to do with conflicts in file
> names due to 8+3 restrictions, such as the discussion in May 2004
> about the doc string of convert-standard-filename
>
> So there are, like, 4-5 instances since 2004---more than I thought,
> but still very much negligible.
I wouldn't call it negligible, it is annoying. And that is just one
search, looking other keywords might find more stuff. And again, the
feeling of a lot of people on this list is that this dealing with this
is unjustified, as the platform does not seem to be too much alive
> > Another situation where the DOS port had to be taken into account:
> > recently I wanted to clean up the code and get rid of the MULTI_KBOARD
> > #ifdefs. You asked me not to because the MSDOS port might need it. I
> > am 100% convinced that it won't be needed, but preferred to drop the
> > issue rather that try to convince you of this.
>
> So you are saying that my stubbornness is also a problem related to
> the MSDOS port?
I did not say, nor did I want to imply anything about "stubbornness",
I am sorry if that's what you read into this. I just felt that it
wasn't worth my time or yours to try to convince you about
this. (which is quite possible with the right technical arguments).
> > Also, there are a LOT of DOS #ifdefs in the code that we could get rid
> > of, that should simplify future maintenance.
>
> You can say this about many other supported platforms. Look at
> sysdep.c, for example, or at process.c.
Exactly, if there are many other systems that are dead, we should just
delete the corresponding cruft.
> This thread was only about 8+3 file-name limitations.
I might have confused the thread, I thought the discussion was in
general about if it was about if keeping the MSDOS port altogether.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-26 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-06 19:52 isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-07 15:37 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-08 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 19:18 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-08 19:59 ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-10-08 22:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 9:25 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-11 9:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-11 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-11 17:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-11 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-12 8:42 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-10-12 15:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-12 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-20 0:08 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 7:26 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-21 23:39 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-21 23:50 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-22 0:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-22 1:01 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-23 17:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 21:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-10-24 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 2:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 8:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-23 23:33 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 0:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 4:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 5:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-24 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 4:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 4:51 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-24 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-24 23:55 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 4:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 6:21 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 20:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 11:02 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-25 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 1:30 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-26 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 10:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-29 0:08 ` Michael Olson
2007-10-26 15:16 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-26 15:32 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 15:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 15:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-26 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-26 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 19:41 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2007-10-26 20:01 ` Jason Rumney
2007-10-26 20:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-26 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 17:28 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-27 22:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 16:45 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29 7:30 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-30 7:33 ` Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 13:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-10-31 7:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 9:21 ` desupporting X10 and old X11 releases (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 18:38 ` abandon K&R C ?(was: " Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-29 23:41 ` abandon K&R C ? Miles Bader
2007-10-29 7:21 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-10-29 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 3:35 ` remove support for Sun windows (was Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-31 23:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 3:09 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-11-01 7:44 ` isearch multiple buffers Jan Djärv
2007-11-09 8:26 ` List of platforms to delete (was: Re: isearch multiple buffers) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-10-25 6:47 ` isearch multiple buffers martin rudalics
2007-10-25 7:02 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-25 8:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 11:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 11:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 14:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-10-25 14:08 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-25 7:45 ` 8.3 filename restriction Kenichi Handa
2007-10-25 10:53 ` tomas
2007-10-25 22:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 12:36 ` martin rudalics
2007-10-25 22:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-25 21:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-10-26 3:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-22 0:33 ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-22 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 7:12 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-23 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 0:32 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 16:31 ` buffer order [was: isearch multiple buffers] Drew Adams
2007-10-25 0:47 ` buffer order Miles Bader
2007-10-24 21:33 ` isearch multiple buffers Juri Linkov
2007-10-24 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-24 8:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 21:23 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 20:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-25 21:51 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-26 23:05 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 0:01 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 0:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 7:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-27 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:37 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:31 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 13:50 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 15:03 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-29 9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 23:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-28 0:18 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:32 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 3:22 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 4:14 ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-10-28 10:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 0:13 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 2:10 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27 2:39 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 3:46 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-27 4:29 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 23:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-28 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 1:33 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-27 16:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-27 22:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 23:26 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-28 13:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2008-07-20 0:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 4:11 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-20 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 17:21 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-20 19:38 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 3:29 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-07-21 9:07 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 6:53 ` Thomas Link
2008-07-21 9:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 10:42 ` Thomas Link
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