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From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Stephen Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: region-active-p
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:03:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200710261303.13426.andreas.roehler@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ilai63w.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

Am Freitag, 26. Oktober 2007 11:21 schrieb Stephen J. Turnbull:
> Andreas Röhler writes:
>  > If there is no extension, just the mark set,
>  > `zmacs-region-extent' is nil and `region-active-p'
>  > returns nil therefor.
>
> Right.  However, if zmacs-region-extent is non-nil, it is possible
> that (region-beginning) equals (region-end), 

If this is possible--my little check rather
contradicts--than I consider it as not congruent with
its name "extent" or a bug.

At stake are AFAIU tree different and hierarchical
conditions:

1 region exists but has no extent
2 region has extent but is not visible
3 region is visible

For appropriate names I held something like

1 region-exist-p
2 region-extent-p
3 region-visible-p

In GNU Emacs these conditions are expressed by

1 mark-active
2 (and mark-active (not (eq (region-beginning) (region-end))))
3 (and transient-mark-mode mark-active
     (not (eq (region-beginning) (region-end))))

XEmacs has AFAIS

1 region-exist-p

3 region-active-p

Andreas Röhler

> in which case there is 
> (usually) no point in operating on the region.  It is that check that
> Richard is asking about AFAICS.
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-26 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-19  9:49 region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-19 20:57 ` region-active-p Juri Linkov
2007-10-21  7:25   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 13:56     ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-21 14:48       ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-21 19:22         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-23  7:12           ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-23  8:53             ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-23 17:53               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-24  7:33                 ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-25  2:10                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-24 19:34             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-25  9:01               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-26  5:38                 ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-26  8:17                   ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-26  9:21                     ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-26 11:03                       ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2007-10-26 21:53                         ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-27  2:28                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-27  5:20                         ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-27  6:17                           ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-27  7:57                             ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-28  6:55                             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-28  7:32                               ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-28 12:15                             ` region-active-p Johan Bockgård
2007-10-28 21:07                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-28 21:07                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-27 23:41                           ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-28  1:21                             ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-28  1:27                               ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-28  2:43                                 ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-29  0:11                               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-29  1:40                                 ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-12-10 23:08                                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-12-11  8:15                                     ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11  9:57                                       ` region-active-p Juri Linkov
2007-12-11 11:52                                         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11 14:55                                           ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11 17:05                                             ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11 18:16                                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11  9:07                                     ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-12-11  9:59                                       ` region-active-p Juri Linkov
2007-12-11 11:50                                         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-28  7:29                             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-28 21:06                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-29  0:11                               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-30  0:12                                 ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-30  8:22                                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-30  8:59                                     ` region-active-p David Kastrup
2007-10-31  7:46                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-30 15:03                                     ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-10-30 19:03                                       ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 19:49                                         ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-10-30 20:15                                           ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 20:28                                             ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-10-30 21:30                                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-10-30 23:43                                           ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-31  6:35                                             ` region-active-p David Kastrup
2007-10-31  7:59                                               ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-03 21:08                                             ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-31  7:47                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-31  7:47                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-10-31  8:00                                         ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-31 23:58                                           ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-01  2:33                                             ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-01  2:55                                               ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-11-01 10:06                                                 ` region-active-p Kim F. Storm
2007-11-01 15:46                                                   ` region-active-p Drew Adams
2007-11-01 17:56                                                     ` region-active-p David Kastrup
2007-11-01 23:08                                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 19:04                                               ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-02  0:18                                                 ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-02 15:02                                                   ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-02 21:39                                                     ` region-active-p Stefan Monnier
2007-11-02 22:31                                                     ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-11-03 20:48                                                       ` region-active-p Richard Stallman
2007-11-05  6:48                                                         ` region-active-p Miles Bader
2007-10-29  8:24                               ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-22  6:09         ` region-active-p Andreas Röhler
2007-10-21 17:18       ` region-active-p Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-21 20:54         ` region-active-p Reiner Steib

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