From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eric S. Raymond" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Another VC terminology change? Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:30:05 -0400 Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs Message-ID: <20071011143005.GA18057@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1192112985 7234 80.91.229.12 (11 Oct 2007 14:29:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:29:45 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 11 16:29:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ifz2h-0005mm-01 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:29:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifz2a-0004oD-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifz2W-0004kp-GW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:29:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifz2V-0004j5-JY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ifz2V-0004iw-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: from static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net ([71.162.243.5] helo=snark) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ifz2V-0001DL-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: by snark (Postfix, from userid 23) id 96B7938032; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: inline X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80615 Archived-At: I note, in files.texi: The terms ``checkin'' and ``checkout'' are associated with file-based and locking-based systems and a bit archaic; nowadays those operations are usually called ``commit'' and ``update''. Since I've had to take a big hammer to VC's terminology anyway to clean up the inconsistencies Stefan pointed out, I'm thinking now might be a good time for me to go further and change these. The argument against, of course, is that users are accustomed to these terms. They're embedded in VC because when I originally wrote it SCCS and RCS were the only games in town[1] and these are the terms they used. The argument for is that 'commit' and 'update' are a better match for the terms CVS introduced and every subsequent VCS we're interested in has pretty much retained. -- Eric S. Raymond [1] Actually, CVS was in use at a university somewhere, but it didn't hit the big time til a few years after I wrote VC.