From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 23.0.50; MacOS X 10.4: very slow visuals, multi-tty patch suspected Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:42:17 -0700 Message-ID: <200709260542.l8Q5gO3i015264@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <200709061414.l86EEwQE013656@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200709061610.l86GAA2D017210@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200709061715.l86HFHXx020325@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200709061843.l86IhFrJ023998@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200709062016.l86KGW4i027628@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <46F92348.2050203@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190785453 8344 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2007 05:44:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 26 07:44:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IaPgu-0005Wf-0a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:44:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaPgq-0007b1-IW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaPgn-0007ab-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaPgm-0007aM-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:44:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaPgm-0007aI-Bl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:44:00 -0400 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IaPgl-0001vd-QQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:44:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8Q5gO3i015264; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:42:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue\, 25 Sep 2007 11\:53\:45 -0500") Original-Lines: 21 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79885 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:03:36 +0100 Jason Rumney wrote: > > JR> Ted Zlatanov wrote: > >> I would suggest at least disabling the Emacs Cocoa build for MacOS X, if > >> the Emacs project can't run reliably there in a graphical mode; > JR> How will disabling a GUI framework help improve it? Code in CVS is > JR> development code, if you want a 100% stable version of Emacs, use 21.1 > > I am not looking for stability. The current Cocoa port is *unusable* > and *unmaintained* (to the best of my knowledge) which is a very > different thing from unstable and the reason I'm trying to bring up this > issue again after 2 weeks of silence on the subject. I'd fix it myself > if I could, but I need at least some help (I posted on that earlier in > the thread) and none has been offered on the emacs-devel list since my > attempt 2 weeks ago. I'd try to compare the code in mac_term_init and Fx_create_frame to the similar code for X11 and Windows and see if you can find anything that is missing... Hope this helps.