* 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
@ 2007-09-07 14:20 Thomas Christensen
2007-09-08 1:02 ` Thomas Christensen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Christensen @ 2007-09-07 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
In Gnus the danish æøå characters are shown as "squares" if the email
is formatted as iso-8859-15; but if I view the email as iso-8859-1
(which is the same but without the € character I think), it shows
correctly.
The email is generated through the alpine MUA, and shows properly in
all other MUAs I have tried: mutt, thunderbird (icedove), squirrelmail,
and of course alpine.
Thomas
In GNU Emacs 22.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.14)
of 2007-09-06 on foobar
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70200000
configured using `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--host=i686-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--program-suffix=-emacs-22-cvs' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-22-cvs' '--without-carbon' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--with-jpeg' '--without-tiff' '--without-gif' '--with-png' '--with-xpm' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--without-hesiod' '--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'build_alias=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i686-pc-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=prescott -pipe''
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: en_US.utf8
locale-coding-system: utf-8
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: Summary
Minor modes in effect:
iswitchb-mode: t
jabber-activity-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
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<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
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<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down>
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<down> <return> C-s e m a c s C-s C-s C-s <down> <down>
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<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> u q q g <up> <up>
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <return> 1 0 0 0 <return>
M-> M-< C-s g n u s C-s <C-right> <C-right> <C-right>
C-s C-s <left> <left> <C-left> C-s C-s <C-left> <C-left>
<C-left> <C-left> <C-left> <return> <down> <return>
<down> <return> C-s C-s C-s M-> <up> C-x 1 C-x 5 2
M-x <switch-frame> <switch-frame> C-g C-g <switch-frame>
M-x b u g <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
s e n <tab> <tab> <backspace> <backspace> <backspace>
b <backspace> e m <tab> a <tab> b <tab> <tab> <backspace>
C-g C-g C-h a b u g <return> C-M-v M-x r e p o r <tab>
<return>
Recent messages:
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* Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
2007-09-07 14:20 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails Thomas Christensen
@ 2007-09-08 1:02 ` Thomas Christensen
2007-09-08 9:36 ` Thomas Christensen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Christensen @ 2007-09-08 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
It seems gnus is not a part of the problem. I tried to start emacs
with:
$ LANG=en_US.iso885915 emacs
and the æøå character became squares as I typed them in the scratch
buffer.
To ensure I had iso-8859-15 fonts installed, I did:
$ LANG=en_US.iso885915 xterm
where æøå showed properly.
Both applications use the standard 'fixed' font.
Thomas
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* Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
2007-09-08 1:02 ` Thomas Christensen
@ 2007-09-08 9:36 ` Thomas Christensen
2007-09-10 2:41 ` Kenichi Handa
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Christensen @ 2007-09-08 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
I must apologize for the noise. It appears to be that Gentoo is
hardcoded to only generate iso-8859-1 fonts in modular X.
Thomas
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* Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
2007-09-08 9:36 ` Thomas Christensen
@ 2007-09-10 2:41 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-10 7:26 ` Thomas Christensen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2007-09-10 2:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Christensen; +Cc: emacs-pretest-bug
In article <871wd9ebxv.fsf@foobar.localdomain>, Thomas Christensen <christensenthomas@gmail.com> writes:
> I must apologize for the noise. It appears to be that Gentoo is
> hardcoded to only generate iso-8859-1 fonts in modular X.
Does it mean that the problem was solved by installing
iso-8859-15 fonts?
---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org
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* Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
2007-09-10 2:41 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2007-09-10 7:26 ` Thomas Christensen
2007-09-10 7:38 ` Kenichi Handa
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Christensen @ 2007-09-10 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: emacs-pretest-bug
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:41:06AM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote:
> In article <871wd9ebxv.fsf@foobar.localdomain>, Thomas Christensen <christensenthomas@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I must apologize for the noise. It appears to be that Gentoo is
> > hardcoded to only generate iso-8859-1 fonts in modular X.
>
> Does it mean that the problem was solved by installing
> iso-8859-15 fonts?
Yes, it solved the problem completely. I puzzles me a bit though,
that Emacs is the only application that could not handle the
iso-8859-15 without these fonts, and also how the others applications
*did* handle this. But I know little of these matters.
Thomas
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* Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
2007-09-10 7:26 ` Thomas Christensen
@ 2007-09-10 7:38 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-10 8:31 ` Thomas Christensen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2007-09-10 7:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Christensen; +Cc: emacs-pretest-bug
In article <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar>, Thomas Christensen <christensenthomas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:41:06AM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote:
> > In article <871wd9ebxv.fsf@foobar.localdomain>, Thomas Christensen <christensenthomas@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > I must apologize for the noise. It appears to be that Gentoo is
> > > hardcoded to only generate iso-8859-1 fonts in modular X.
> >
> > Does it mean that the problem was solved by installing
> > iso-8859-15 fonts?
> Yes, it solved the problem completely. I puzzles me a bit though,
> that Emacs is the only application that could not handle the
> iso-8859-15 without these fonts, and also how the others applications
> *did* handle this. But I know little of these matters.
Emacs still doesn't uses Unicode character codes internally,
thus iso-8859-1 characters and iso-8859-15 characters are
treated differently. In many cases, user don't notice this
difference because they are automatically converted from/to
each other. The emacs-unicode-2 branch of Emacs CVS
repository does uses Unicode internally and doesn't have
such a problem.
---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org
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* Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails
2007-09-10 7:38 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2007-09-10 8:31 ` Thomas Christensen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Christensen @ 2007-09-10 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: emacs-pretest-bug
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 04:38:57PM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote:
> In article <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar>, Thomas Christensen <christensenthomas@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Yes, it solved the problem completely. I puzzles me a bit though,
> > that Emacs is the only application that could not handle the
> > iso-8859-15 without these fonts, and also how the others applications
> > *did* handle this. But I know little of these matters.
>
> Emacs still doesn't uses Unicode character codes internally,
> thus iso-8859-1 characters and iso-8859-15 characters are
> treated differently. In many cases, user don't notice this
> difference because they are automatically converted from/to
> each other. The emacs-unicode-2 branch of Emacs CVS
> repository does uses Unicode internally and doesn't have
> such a problem.
Thanks for the explanation.
Thomas
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