From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Christensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20070910083118.GA13518@foobar> References: <20070907142018.E409595451@foobar.localdomain> <87ps0uj7g7.fsf@foobar.localdomain> <871wd9ebxv.fsf@foobar.localdomain> <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189416897 14062 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2007 09:34:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 19:34:44 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IUmBV-0001RH-Qi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:32:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUeh9-00044f-0j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUeh3-00040k-PL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUeh2-0003zW-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUeh2-0003z6-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUeh2-0000Zr-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUegf-0005q4-ER for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUegx-0000Yw-R7 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [91.189.201.79] (helo=thomasc.openhost.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUegx-0000Yi-HW for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:32:23 -0400 Original-Received: from foobar.localdomain (unknown [80.72.152.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thomasc.openhost.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4CD29C842D; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by foobar.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AA6EE94C99; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:31:18 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78425 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:19815 Archived-At: On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 04:38:57PM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > In article <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar>, Thomas Christensen writes: > > > Yes, it solved the problem completely. I puzzles me a bit though, > > that Emacs is the only application that could not handle the > > iso-8859-15 without these fonts, and also how the others applications > > *did* handle this. But I know little of these matters. > > Emacs still doesn't uses Unicode character codes internally, > thus iso-8859-1 characters and iso-8859-15 characters are > treated differently. In many cases, user don't notice this > difference because they are automatically converted from/to > each other. The emacs-unicode-2 branch of Emacs CVS > repository does uses Unicode internally and doesn't have > such a problem. Thanks for the explanation. Thomas