* Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
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@ 2007-09-04 7:19 ` Leo
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
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From: Leo @ 2007-09-04 7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
On 2007-09-04 01:35 +0100, sTeeL wrote:
> hi, all
> i am using emacs-unicode-2(23.0.0.1) branch for a long time, yesterday i occasionly searched
>
> on web and found a "23.0.0.50" version emacs, which seems is emacs-multi-tty branch, and it
>
> does not include any unicode support, does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?
>
> And, I love emacs-multi-tty but can't find any multi-tty patch for emacs-unicode-2 branch, any
>
> suggestion?
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
HTH,
--
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com> (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
@ 2007-09-04 9:48 ` Sean Sieger
2007-09-04 10:30 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Richard Stallman
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sean Sieger @ 2007-09-04 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
@ 2007-09-04 10:30 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-09-04 10:39 ` dhruva
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From: Peter Dyballa @ 2007-09-04 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean Sieger; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
Am 04.09.2007 um 11:48 schrieb Sean Sieger:
>
> People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty
> branch
> is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2
> branch
> to 23.0.52.
>
> Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
> change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
>
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/emacs/?pathrev=emacs-
unicode-2 does not show that branch name ...
--
Greetings
Pete
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 10:30 ` Peter Dyballa
@ 2007-09-04 10:39 ` dhruva
2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: dhruva @ 2007-09-04 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: Sean Sieger, help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
Hi,
On 9/4/07, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
>
> Am 04.09.2007 um 11:48 schrieb Sean Sieger:
>
> >
> > People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty
> > branch
> > is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2
> > branch
> > to 23.0.52.
> >
> > Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
> > change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
> >
>
> http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/emacs/?pathrev=emacs-
> unicode-2 does not show that branch name ...
>
From the web CVS front end, 'emacs-unicode-base' is a NON branch tag
(just a simple TAG). The valid UNICODE related branch tag is
'emacs-unicode-2' (earlier branch was emacs-unicode). The UNICODE
maintainer is the best person to clarify though.
-dky
--
Dhruva Krishnamurthy
Contents reflect my personal views only!
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 10:39 ` dhruva
@ 2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2007-09-04 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dhruva; +Cc: sean.sieger, help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
The branch tag for Unicode version of Emacs is
emacs-unicode-2. It's very unfortunate that it is not yet
merged into the trunk. I hope that Richard decides to that
soon. In this May, he said that he wanted one or two months
to decide which feature to include in Emacs 22.2 before
merging emacs-unicode-2.
Those who want to distinguish the trunk version and
emacs-unicode-2 version, please check the variable
mule-version.
The trunk: "5.0 (SAKAKI)"
emacs-unicode-2: "6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO)"
---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org
In article <e3f230850709040339m10d697b1h97226b30c9fb8d38@mail.gmail.com>, dhruva <dhruvakm@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi,
> On 9/4/07, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de> wrote:
> >
> > Am 04.09.2007 um 11:48 schrieb Sean Sieger:
> >
> > >
> > > People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty
> > > branch
> > > is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2
> > > branch
> > > to 23.0.52.
> > >
> > > Confused by the the version and the name of the branch--did the name
> > > change from emacs-unicode-2 to emacs-unicode-base?
> > >
> >
> > http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/emacs/emacs/?pathrev=emacs-
> > unicode-2 does not show that branch name ...
> >
> >From the web CVS front end, 'emacs-unicode-base' is a NON branch tag
> (just a simple TAG). The valid UNICODE related branch tag is
> 'emacs-unicode-2' (earlier branch was emacs-unicode). The UNICODE
> maintainer is the best person to clarify though.
> -dky
> --
> Dhruva Krishnamurthy
> Contents reflect my personal views only!
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
@ 2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-09-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
The multi-tty branch is dead now, right? We already merged it into
the trunk.
Maybe we should change the number of unicode2, but I don't
see it will solve a problem. It already does have a version
number that is different. The point is that we need to stop
saying "Emacs 23" and say either "trunk" or "unicode-2".
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-09-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: dhruvakm, sean.sieger, emacs-devel, help-gnu-emacs
I wanted to release Emacs 22.2 in August, but this release is delayed
because of bugs waiting to be fixed.
Those for which I have sent two reminders are listed in
admin/FOR-RELEASE. Some others may be listed there too. But there
are probably several more which have not had two reminders that are
not listed in FOR-RELEASE. You can find them in messages from me to
emacs-devel that say "ack".
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 11:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-05 5:49 ` David Kastrup
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2007-09-04 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: emacs-devel
Kenichi Handa wrote:
> The branch tag for Unicode version of Emacs is emacs-unicode-2. It's
> very unfortunate that it is not yet merged into the trunk. I hope
> that Richard decides to that soon.
I interpret this message:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg00180.html
What we need to do now is merge the multi-tty changes into the
Unicode-2 branch, then install the Unicode-2 changes into the
trunk.
to mean that he has already decided, and that you should go ahead at
your convenience.
> In this May, he said that he wanted one or two months to decide
> which feature to include in Emacs 22.2 before merging
> emacs-unicode-2.
This reason (keeping trunk and release branch similar) cannot apply
any more. After the merge of multi-tty to the trunk, the trunk and
release branch differ significantly.
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
2007-09-04 7:19 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Leo
2007-09-04 9:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 Sean Sieger
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Richard Stallman
@ 2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-05 5:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 David Kastrup
2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-05 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, emacs-devel
Hi Leo,
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
I thought mtty branch was dead since it has been merged into the
trunk. So why not ditch it completely. Second, are we sure
unicode2 branch will be merged before GNU Emacs 23.x ? If so, I
would stick 23.0.51 to unicode2. If not, I would prefer have
something like 24.0.51.
Xavier
--
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http://www.lolica.org
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-05 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2007-09-05 5:48 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-10 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
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From: David Kastrup @ 2007-09-05 5:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xavier Maillard; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Leo, emacs-devel
Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:
> Hi Leo,
>
> People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
> is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
> to 23.0.52.
>
> I thought mtty branch was dead since it has been merged into the
> trunk. So why not ditch it completely.
What do you mean by "ditching"? It should remain in CVS so that one
can track its history.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-04 23:54 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2007-09-05 5:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-05 20:02 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2007-09-05 5:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: emacs-devel, Kenichi Handa
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Kenichi Handa wrote:
>
>> The branch tag for Unicode version of Emacs is emacs-unicode-2. It's
>> very unfortunate that it is not yet merged into the trunk. I hope
>> that Richard decides to that soon.
>
> I interpret this message:
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg00180.html
>
> What we need to do now is merge the multi-tty changes into the
> Unicode-2 branch, then install the Unicode-2 changes into the
> trunk.
>
> to mean that he has already decided, and that you should go ahead at
> your convenience.
Backing out multitty changes that we decide we don't want, or changing
implementation details will be easier if we don't make a major merge
from another branch before we are finished with dealing with the
pending one.
At least that's what I think.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-05 5:49 ` David Kastrup
@ 2007-09-05 20:02 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2007-09-05 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Kastrup; +Cc: rgm, handa, emacs-devel
Backing out multitty changes that we decide we don't want, or changing
implementation details will be easier if we don't make a major merge
from another branch before we are finished with dealing with the
pending one.
That is true, but I don't think we will have to change anything
fundamental in the multi-tty code. We have a few bugs to fix,
and need clear documentation.
We would only need to back it out
if nobody writes the needed documentation.
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?)
2007-09-04 22:58 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 (was: does emacs-unicode-2 branch stop developing?) Richard Stallman
@ 2007-09-10 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-10 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, sdl.web, emacs-devel
Hi,
People are confused by the version. Since trunk is 23.0.50, mtty branch
is 23.0.51, I wonder if it will make more sense to bump unicode2 branch
to 23.0.52.
The multi-tty branch is dead now, right? We already merged it into
the trunk.
Dead and dropped ?
The point is that we need to stop saying "Emacs 23" and say
either "trunk" or "unicode-2".
I agree, that's enough to distinguish them.
Xavier
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* Re: Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52
2007-09-05 5:48 ` Bumpe unicode2 branch version to 23.0.52 David Kastrup
@ 2007-09-10 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-10 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Kastrup; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs, sdl.web, emacs-devel
> I thought mtty branch was dead since it has been merged into the
> trunk. So why not ditch it completely.
What do you mean by "ditching"? It should remain in CVS so that one
can track its history.
You are right.
Xavier
--
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org
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