From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Timo Savola Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: XEmbed patches Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:59:13 +0300 Message-ID: <20070720085913.GF27107@movial.fi> References: <20070718142537.GA27107@movial.fi> <46A05BFA.2010900@swipnet.se> <20070720082425.GD27107@movial.fi> <46A074FC.7040805@gnu.org> <20070720084412.GE27107@movial.fi> <46A076AD.2030600@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184921986 10806 80.91.229.12 (20 Jul 2007 08:59:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 20 10:59:43 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IBoKt-0006ZR-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:59:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBoKs-00068m-3M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBoKY-00066f-17 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:59:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IBoKV-00065l-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IBoKU-00065J-Lk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:59:19 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.movial.fi ([62.236.91.34]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IBoKR-000790-Qz; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (mailscanner.hel.movial.fi [172.17.81.9]) by smtp.movial.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DE8C808D; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:59:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at movial.fi Original-Received: from smtp.movial.fi ([62.236.91.34]) by localhost (mailscanner.hel.movial.fi [172.17.81.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id rgR+yz7-i77H; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from ext-ssh.movial.fi (ext-ssh.movial.fi [62.236.91.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.movial.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8C1C8085; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by ext-ssh.movial.fi (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 551582006C; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:59:13 +0300 (EEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46A076AD.2030600@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75162 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 09:47:41AM +0100, Jason Rumney wrote: > Timo Savola wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 09:40:28AM +0100, Jason Rumney wrote: > > > >> A better solution would be to remove the restriction that frames must be > >> an integer number of characters wide (and high). Then the scrollbar and > >> toolbar can be made the correct size without empty filler padding them > >> out to a multiple of the character size. > > > > Sure, if it's doable. > > Don't you need that anyway for embedding? Strictly speaking, no. Emacs may request that, but it gets what it gets and the remains are filled with the X window's background color... Of course this is also a visual problem (arguably bigger one than the scrollbar-gap issue), but I haven't really thought about it because I've always resized the panes in the embedders I've used ([1] and [2]) so that the space reserved for Emacs is just right. Now that you mentioned it, it is a big issue. [1] http://encode.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://pida.co.uk/ timo