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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
To: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com
Cc: jay.p.belanger@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Calc: `*' binds more strongly than `/'
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:28:45 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706201928.l5KJSjA7025362@jane.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fy4mzf3z.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Jay Belanger on Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:54:08 -0500)

Jay Belanger wrote:

   I can't offhand; that's what I asked about.

It can never make any difference in an expression containing only *
and /.

Indeed, what happens with equal precedence and left associativity in
an expression without parentheses containing only * and / is that any
`* a' (`/ a'. resp.) anywhere in the expression results in the final
result being bigger by (smaller by, resp.) a factor of a.  Giving /
higher precedence results in exactly the same.

Things do make a difference if a third "multiplicative type operator",
say mod, is involved.  If you give / and * equal precedence, then you
can be consistent and give these other ones exactly the same
precedence, and use left associativity (this is exactly what most
mathematical software I know of does with `mod', _unless_ they
_require_, as many do, explicit parentheses do disambiguate and throw
an error if these parentheses are missing).  But if you give / higher
precedence than *. then you have to decide which relative precedence
these other operators get.  Of course, that same problem occurs just
as much if you give * higher precedence than /, as Calc did up to know
and still does by default now (unless I misunderstood).

I do not know what preference Calc gives to mod, relative to / and *,
for either value of `calc-multiplication-has-precedence'.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-20 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-14 11:57 Calc: `*' binds more strongly than `/' Christian Schlauer
2007-04-14 15:09 ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-15 19:21   ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-15 20:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-17 12:47       ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-04-17 18:03         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-18  8:44           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-04-18 19:27             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-18 20:02               ` Davis Herring
2007-04-18 20:16                 ` David Kastrup
2007-04-18 21:43                   ` Davis Herring
2007-04-19 16:10                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-20 11:13                   ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-04-20 13:40                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-20 14:07                       ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-22  1:31                         ` Miles Bader
2007-04-22 10:19                           ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-22 10:23                         ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-22 19:47                           ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-23 10:46                           ` Jason Rumney
2007-04-23 13:03                             ` Kim F. Storm
2007-04-23 15:54                               ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-25 19:56                                 ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-25 20:54                                   ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-26  3:35                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-26  4:06                                       ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-26 14:11                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-26 21:07                                           ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-26 15:07                                         ` Davis Herring
2007-04-26 16:01                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-04-26 18:32                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-04-26 21:29                                               ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-26 23:17                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-04-26 21:07                                     ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-27  1:27                                       ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-26 17:47                                   ` Davis Herring
2007-06-20 15:23                         ` Jay Belanger
2007-06-20 16:02                           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-20 17:13                             ` Jay Belanger
2007-06-20 17:29                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-06-20 17:54                               ` Jay Belanger
2007-06-20 19:14                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-20 19:28                                 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2007-06-20 20:18                                   ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-17 18:54         ` Jay Belanger
2007-04-18 21:55           ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-19  2:58             ` Daniel Brockman
2007-04-22 10:27               ` Christian Schlauer
2007-04-26 16:00                 ` Daniel Brockman
2007-04-19 15:16           ` Drew Adams
2007-04-19 17:05             ` David Kastrup
2007-04-19 17:18               ` Drew Adams
2007-04-19 17:33                 ` David Kastrup
2007-04-16 15:38     ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-17 12:47 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-04-18 21:29   ` Christian Schlauer

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