From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Proposal for a 22.2/trunk development model (was: Syncing Gnus and Emacs repositories) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:22:24 -0700 Message-ID: <200706161422.l5GEMTJ5009556@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> References: <6sps3z32ap.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tztbcue9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lkemmrg4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <18033.64249.816850.550250@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182003799 29617 80.91.229.12 (16 Jun 2007 14:23:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org, Nick Roberts , emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, cyd@stupidchicken.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 16 16:23:16 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HzZBM-0000b7-5m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:23:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzZBL-0002QK-CP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzZBI-0002Oc-5V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:23:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HzZBG-0002Mr-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HzZBG-0002Mj-Q0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:23:10 -0400 Original-Received: from oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.41]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HzZBE-0001sv-Vt; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l5GEMTJ5009556; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:22:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri\, 15 Jun 2007 15\:22\:44 -0400") Original-Lines: 44 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-kernel: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73070 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I have decided that we should not merge unicode-2 until a couple of > months have gone by and we know what should be done about Emacs 22.2. > Until then I want to avoid far-reaching changes in the trunk. > Please stop making a fuss about a couple of months. > > However, it is ok to add new features which are not so far-reaching in > their effects on the code. Even the multi-tty branch could be merged > in (once we decide what to do about the environment). This development model would undoubtedly achieve the goal of being able to make a high quality 22.2 release. Here is a proposal that would still achieve the same goal, with the added advantage that it would get us closer to a future 23.1 release at a higher speed: * ask for 2-3 (or more) volunteers that would: - backport all the changes that you'd consider important from trunk to the 22.x branch - develop fixes for bugs that only occur on the 22.x branch - analyze the reported 22.1 bugs and fix them or ask for help to fix them - ask you to stop all development on the trunk until some critical bug is fixed on the branch. * open the trunk for any new development Now, during the summer, is a very good time to allow for more development to happen: a lot of people have more free time, we'd want them to use that time for emacs as much as possible. Do you find such a plan acceptable? IMHO a plan like this would satisfy the people that ask for more development on the trunk. Please let us know. Thanks! --dan PS: In order to reduce the number of messages on the list, please allow RMS to reply to this and agree/disagree with the principle of this before posting alternate better plans or improvements to this one.