From: Ryan Yeske <rcyeske@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: tromey@redhat.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version'
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:36:09 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070514223609.920A014267@owie.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uodkndy7n.fsf@gnu.org>
There are problems with this that no package system can ever solve: a
package that is released asynchronously from Emacs runs a high risk to
become broken by changes in Emacs. Packages that are released
together with Emacs are generally coherent with the Emacs core, by
contrast.
As long as this is a real problem (and I personally don't see how it
can be solved, given the high rate of changes in core code), this
``biggest benefit'' is actually a myth, IMHO.
I have run emacs-w3m and bbdb across different emacs versions without
problems. If changes in emacs do result in breakage in a package,
then updating installed packages can be done much more easily than
manually downloading and reinstalling updated packages.
Of course packages that are released together with emacs may not have
this problem, but we are talking about making a convenient way to
deliver third party packages to users. Perhaps then, this is actually
outside the scope of emacs-devel@, as a package system like the one we
have been discussing doesn't need even need to be a part of emacs.
Ryan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-14 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-09 19:56 CVS is the `released version' Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-09 19:59 ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-10 2:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-10 6:03 ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-10 11:43 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-10 11:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 6:58 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 11:58 ` Andrea Russo
2007-05-10 12:34 ` Thomas Hühn
2007-05-09 20:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 2:18 ` Chong Yidong
2007-05-10 18:24 ` Ken Manheimer
2007-05-10 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-11 18:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-11 20:19 ` joakim
2007-05-12 16:47 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-12 20:26 ` joakim
2007-05-13 8:49 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-13 9:38 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-13 11:28 ` Ralf Angeli
2007-05-13 12:53 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 1:43 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 8:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-14 15:19 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 18:29 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-16 2:23 ` Mike Mattie
2007-05-14 1:17 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 5:06 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-05-14 6:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 15:07 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 17:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-14 6:41 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-14 8:02 ` joakim
2007-05-14 15:10 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 18:41 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-05-14 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-05-14 19:16 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-14 22:36 ` Ryan Yeske [this message]
2007-05-16 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-17 12:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-17 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-15 23:52 ` thorne
2007-05-18 23:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-18 23:31 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-19 22:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-19 22:33 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-20 17:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-20 21:45 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 5:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 10:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 10:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 18:36 ` JD Smith
2007-05-21 18:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 18:51 ` Chong Yidong
2007-05-21 19:02 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22 14:52 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-25 21:13 ` Ken Manheimer
2007-05-25 21:24 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-26 7:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-28 3:10 ` dhruva
2007-05-29 0:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-29 6:21 ` dhruva
2007-05-29 9:30 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-29 10:30 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-29 14:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-29 14:45 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-29 17:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-29 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-30 15:43 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-30 16:15 ` joakim
2007-06-02 17:29 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-03 9:56 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-30 15:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-30 21:55 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-05-31 22:32 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-30 4:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-03 3:23 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-22 8:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 16:33 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 18:32 ` CVS is the `released version' (ELL and the ohio lisp archive) Stephen Eglen
2007-05-24 21:22 ` CVS is the `released version' Richard Stallman
2007-05-24 21:58 ` New Extensions (was: Re: CVS is the `released version') Henrik Enberg
2007-05-24 21:22 ` CVS is the `released version' Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 12:03 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-21 12:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 13:18 ` jasonr
2007-05-21 15:39 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-22 10:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-22 11:18 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-22 13:36 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-22 15:19 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-22 15:37 ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-22 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-22 17:24 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-23 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-23 15:02 ` Jason Rumney
2007-05-23 19:08 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-05-21 2:57 ` Bob Rogers
2007-05-21 13:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 16:22 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 12:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 16:41 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-22 4:38 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-05-20 7:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-20 21:53 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 5:24 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 5:53 ` dhruva
2007-05-21 6:51 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 8:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-21 9:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 13:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 13:51 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-24 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 10:17 ` package.el (was: Re: CVS is the `released version') David Reitter
2007-05-21 17:40 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 18:13 ` package.el David Kastrup
2007-05-21 22:43 ` package.el David Reitter
2007-05-21 22:51 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 23:48 ` package.el Davis Herring
2007-05-21 23:56 ` package.el Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-05-25 21:39 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-27 1:00 ` package.el Richard Stallman
2007-05-21 23:50 ` package.el David Reitter
2007-05-21 23:44 ` package.el Tom Tromey
2007-05-22 2:21 ` package.el Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-05-22 10:18 ` package.el Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 22:57 ` package.el David Kastrup
2007-05-20 22:05 ` CVS is the `released version' Richard Stallman
2007-05-19 22:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-19 22:31 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-20 17:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-20 21:23 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-21 12:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 13:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-21 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-05-21 16:50 ` Tom Tromey
2007-05-22 14:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-22 6:10 ` Trent Buck
2007-05-22 7:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-24 21:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-05-10 20:42 ` David Kastrup
2007-05-10 23:05 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2007-05-10 23:23 ` Davis Herring
2007-05-11 12:31 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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