From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Slawomir Nowaczyk Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: python-mode patch Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: <20060821111625.491A.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> References: <20060820214937.48E0.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> <17640.55041.315587.638100@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156153190 21142 80.91.229.2 (21 Aug 2006 09:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 21 11:39:49 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GF6Fo-0001mc-Uf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:39:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GF6Fo-0004so-5l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GF6Fa-0004sG-IB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GF6FZ-0004rw-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GF6FZ-0004rn-La for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:39:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [130.235.16.11] (helo=himmelsborg.cs.lth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GF6Mv-0005ia-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 05:46:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (slawek@dain [130.235.16.76]) by himmelsborg.cs.lth.se (8.13.6/8.13.6/perf-jw-tr) with ESMTP id k7L9dE0S004034 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <17640.55041.315587.638100@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> X-Esmandil_Citation: done X-Mailer-Plugin: Popup Memopad for Becky!2 Ver.0.02 Rev.2 X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.25.02 [en] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58607 Archived-At: On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:41:21 +1200 Nick Roberts wrote: #> > Anyway, it seems that essentially *nobody* is using python-mode from #> > CVS Emacs. #> #> I think it's only safe to assume no one is currently developing python-mode. Yes, you are right... but by being a bit controversial I have finally managed to get people to talk about python.el :) #> > The other reason, probably even important, is that there is another #> > python-mode, at http://sf.net/projects/python-mode #> #> Doesn't this mode only work with XEmacs? No. It is being advertised as "developed for XEmacs" or something like that, but it works in Emacs just fine. #> > "Our" python-mode has one important advantage, however: it uses comint #> > for running Python interpreter, while the other one seems to have #> > ad-hoc code for talking to the Python. Therefore I do not think it is #> > a good idea to give up developing our version. #> #> The other python-mode uses something called pdbtrack. Can that be #> made to work with Emacs? (Perhaps Ken Mannheimer can elucidate). I #> am interested in improving pdb in gud.el but don't know enough #> about python. I don't know, I do not use pdb much. But it is certainly worth looking into. #> > Taking it into account, I would like to become a maintainer of #> > python-mode. I would also like to try and fix as much as possible (due #> > to lack of my time it may not end up being all that much, though) #> > before the release. It should not cause any real problems since, as I #> > said, nobody appears to be using the mode currently. #> #> It will be a problem if you accidentally remove features that you are not #> aware of. Sure... I will try not to. And now that I know somebody is actually using the mode, I can hope for more feedback. #> > And it is important to have a *working* mode for the release, if it is #> > to ever gain a reasonable user base. #> #> Others seem to think it does work reasonably well. Perhaps they can review #> your proposed changes. Hopefully. I will prepare a patch or two, then. -- Best wishes, Slawomir Nowaczyk ( slawomir.nowaczyk.847@student.lu.se ) Lottery: A tax on people who don't understand statistics.