From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: <20060717081952.GA1234@muc.de> References: <20060716090816.GA1167@muc.de> <20060716233525.GA1369@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153127373 24713 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2006 09:09:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 11:09:32 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2P6Y-0007lS-V9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:09:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2P6Y-00074I-Bi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:09:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2P6M-00073q-0h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:09:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2P6J-00073d-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:09:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2P6J-00073a-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:09:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.149.48.1] (helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1G2P8w-0003wW-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:11:58 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 41987 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2006 09:09:12 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (HELO localhost.localdomain) (Debian-exim@193.149.49.134) by mail.muc.de with SMTP; 17 Jul 2006 09:09:12 -0000 Original-Received: from acm by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.50) id 1G2OKW-0000P6-Pg; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:19:52 +0100 Original-To: Drew Adams Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060716233525.GA1369@muc.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57165 Archived-At: Morning, Drew! > > Key bindings *are* shortcuts - what's wrong with that? 1) They are > > commonly called "keyboard shortcuts" by many people. 2) They are > > shorter (quicker) to use than clicking menus and links with a mouse - > > don't you agree? They are shorter (quicker) than using `M-x' - don't > > you agree? What is it about "shortcut" that sets you off? > It's one of those sort of words/phrases so beloved of > journalists/salesmen/politicians that can be used to denigrate something, > yet the j/s/p, when called on it, can convincingly pretend it was totally > innocent and factual, as you have done in the preceding paragraph. Er, I didn't mean to say that. What I really wanted to say was the _effect_ of your paragraph was indistinguishable from the j/s/p's. I apologise for saying you were doing this knowingly. I sure you weren't. -- Alan.