From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Slawomir Nowaczyk Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-h K and C-h F in the Help menu Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:31:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20060521112719.83DC.SLAWOMIR.NOWACZYK.847@student.lu.se> References: <446F9817.1080707@student.lu.se> <857j4g9uu7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148203943 8963 80.91.229.2 (21 May 2006 09:32:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 21 11:32:20 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkIE-0006dt-HB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 11:32:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkID-00015J-RW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:32:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkI0-00011p-KG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:31:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkHy-0000yu-DK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FhkHy-0000ym-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:31:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [130.235.16.11] (helo=himmelsborg.cs.lth.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FhkLh-0004dN-Gl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 May 2006 05:35:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (slawek@dain [130.235.16.76]) by himmelsborg.cs.lth.se (8.13.6/8.13.6/perf-jw-tr) with ESMTP id k4L9VmRg025306 for ; Sun, 21 May 2006 11:31:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <857j4g9uu7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Esmandil_Citation: done X-Mailer-Plugin: Popup Memopad for Becky!2 Ver.0.02 Rev.2 X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.21.04 [en] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54935 Archived-At: On Sun, 21 May 2006 00:48:00 +0200 David Kastrup wrote: #>>>>> Not a good idea since the navigation in HTML is much worse than #>>>>> in info-mode. #>>> We don't want to lead users into dead ends, even if it is easy to #>>> do. #> The navigation is in the menus Those are all true... but the usefulness depends on how do you intend to use the manual. #> and you page forward with space and backward with backspace. I have the same in my web browser. #> No, I don't think that an external reader is useful for somebody #> learning Emacs. Well, it depends... I have, for example, an ancient handheld for which I believe no info reader exists. I do have a html browser there, though. I often use it to read various stuff when I have some free time while travelling, for example. Having an opportunity to read emacs manual would be nice. Besides, my emacs is optimised for *writing* stuff, while my web browser is optimised for *reading* stuff. I use fixed-width font in emacs, for example, and proportional in web browser. Sure, if I just want to check something while working, I would use emacs info reader every day. But sometimes I want to read large chunks of the manual, in order to learn something. I *do* see some benefits of html format in such cases. -- Best wishes, Slawomir Nowaczyk ( slawomir.nowaczyk.847@student.lu.se ) Strange how people who don't even know their neighbors are extremely curious to know if there's extra-terrestrial life.