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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: defcustom :version
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:47:37 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603110447.k2B4lbt10750@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15499.1142047137@olgas.newt.com> (message from Bill Wohler on Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:18:57 -0800)

Bill Wohler wrote:

   Unless, of course, folks think is reasonable and proper that large
   independent packages that happen to be bundled with Emacs can use their
   versions with the defcustom :version keyword.

No, because that would give problems with `customize-changed'.  For
packages included with the Emacs distribution the :version keyword
should be the first released version of Emacs that contains the
defcustom with its current standard value.  Note however that a
defcustom needs no :version keyword if the :version is the same as
that of the defgroup.  Defcustoms in packages not distributed with
Emacs should have no :version keyword.

`M-x customize-changed RET 21.4 RET' is supposed to show the user all
defcustoms that were added, or whose standard value changed, in Emacs
22.1.  That is the main purpose of the :version keyword.  Of course,
the fact that you get a 2811 line long Custom buffer limits the
usefulness of this feature.  Once upon a time, when Emacs releases
used to be much more frequent than they are now, `M-x customize-changed'
was one of the most useful things to do when a new Emacs version came out.

Sincerely,

Luc.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-11  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-11  3:18 defcustom :version Bill Wohler
2006-03-11  4:47 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2006-03-11 20:40   ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-12 12:47     ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-12 20:30       ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-13 12:55         ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-14  2:58           ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-29  1:45           ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-29 23:02             ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-30  2:43               ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-30  3:11                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-30 17:28                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-31 17:28                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-31 18:11                       ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-01 13:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-11  0:10                           ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-01 14:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-31  3:10                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-30 19:53                 ` Wolfram Fenske
2006-03-30 21:18                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-07 18:44               ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-08 16:17                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-10 23:49                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-11 16:57                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-12 12:47   ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-12 14:54     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-13  1:26       ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-14  3:26         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-14  3:37           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-14 16:09           ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-14 17:49             ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-14 19:08               ` Drew Adams
2006-03-15 20:20                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-15 20:20               ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-15 20:25                 ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-14 23:32             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-15  0:06               ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-15  1:36                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-15  2:09                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-17 16:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-15 20:21               ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-11  5:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-03-11 13:57 ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-11 23:57   ` Bill Wohler
2006-03-11 23:46 ` Richard Stallman

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