From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Pogonyshev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pango-like font fallback (was Re: Russian numero sign) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 22:31:29 +0200 Message-ID: <200603052231.29806.pogonyshev@gmx.net> References: <200602191431.36541.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200602232237.54975.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1141593640 11886 80.91.229.2 (5 Mar 2006 21:20:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 21:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 05 22:20:36 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG0eU-0006PL-Kd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:20:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG0ec-0004Dm-At for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:20:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FG0eO-0002wG-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:20:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FG0eL-0002RZ-2N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:20:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG0eL-0002R9-0U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:20:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG0gR-0006fo-Bw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:22:31 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Mar 2006 21:20:09 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (EHLO [194.158.212.154]) [194.158.212.154] by mail.gmx.net (mp036) with SMTP; 05 Mar 2006 22:20:09 +0100 X-Authenticated: #16844820 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:51249 Archived-At: Kenichi Handa wrote: > In article <200602232237.54975.pogonyshev@gmx.net>, Paul Pogonyshev writes: > > >> But, unify-8859-on-encoding-mode should be on by default (at > >> least with CVS HEAD emacs). > >> > >> Paul, do you turn it off intentionally? Can you reproduce > >> this problem by starting your emacs with "-Q"? > > > Uh, indeed. I think I turned it off because of poor support of > > Cyrillic characters by the fonts... If I start it with `-Q', > > the numero sign is automatically encodable in UTF-8 as it > > should be, but the Cyrillic characters appear as boxes which is > > of course even worse for me. > > unify-8859-on-encoding-mode is not relevant how to read (or > decode) Cyrillic characters encoded in UTF-8, nor how to > display Cyrillic characters decoded into > mule-unicode-0100-24ff charset. > > Do you really mean that you solved the display problem by > turning it off? No, there is a misundestanding. I meant `unify-8859-on-decoding'. In general, Emacs shows most basic characters OK with unify-on-encoding turned on and unify-on-decoding off, it's not like I need fancy characters regularly. However, Pango sure does a nicer job and I hope your changes doing similar things get merged into the Emacs trunk. That is, if another stable version is ever released. > Please try to select "fontset->standard" by shift-mouse1. > It makes "fixed" the default family, thus has the higher > possibility of selecting an iso10646-1 font that support > Cyrillic. This doesn't seem to have any effect. The screen flickers but displays exactly the same fonts, no matter what I choose in the menus. Probably because I have customized faces, not sure. Paul