From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (emacs)Antinews Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:14:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200601260014.k0Q0Eo019915@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200601250009.k0P099P25542@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <17366.53112.437328.872747@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200601250219.k0P2JoM27363@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601252338.k0PNcEO19568@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138234840 26040 80.91.229.2 (26 Jan 2006 00:20:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, nickrob@snap.net.nz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 26 01:20:37 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1usD-0004lm-0i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 01:20:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1uuy-0000yw-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:23:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1ut4-0000YR-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1ut2-0000YE-VT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:21:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1ut2-0000Y0-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:21:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F1uqS-0002CH-7D; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:18:36 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0Q0I7Xb015384; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:18:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id k0Q0Eo019915; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:14:50 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: schwab@suse.de In-reply-to: (message from Andreas Schwab on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:58:28 +0100) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:18:08 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49554 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab wrote: Luc Teirlinck writes: > Its primary purpose is to provide accurate and useful info about > differences with earlier Emacs versions. That's what NEWS is about. Andreas. The purpose of NEWS is different: it tells a user who starts out using a new Emacs version what is new in that version. It also aims to be rather comprehensive (it is huge). As I understand it, the purpose of antinews is to point out to a user of the present version what the main difficulties could be if he has to use an older version. (_Having_ to use an older version is very common for several reasons: you might not be using your own computer and the Emacs version on that computer may not be the latest version, or you might have to use some package that does not work with the latest version, because of backward incompatible changes). For instance, the current Elisp manual says about naming a keyboard macro: If you wish to save a keyboard macro for later use, you can give it a name using `C-x C-k n' (`kmacro-name-last-macro'). It is impossible to figure out from NEWS that you have to do `M-x name-last-kbd-macro' in 21.4 and earlier, because `C- h n C-s name-last' fails. Sincerely, Luc.