From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: (emacs)Antinews Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:19:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200601250219.k0P2JoM27363@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200601250009.k0P099P25542@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <17366.53112.437328.872747@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138155807 12925 80.91.229.2 (25 Jan 2006 02:23:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 25 03:23:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1aJf-0004qj-4p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:23:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1aMN-0000gi-AV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:26:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1aMA-0000gB-2z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F1aM9-0000fu-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:25:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F1aM9-0000fo-6V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:25:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F1aJS-0005FQ-It for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:23:10 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k0P2N6xh001430; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:23:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id k0P2JoM27363; Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:19:50 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: nickrob@snap.net.nz In-reply-to: <17366.53112.437328.872747@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:08:08 +1300) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:23:07 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49506 Archived-At: Nick Roberts wrote: You pushed to disable this feature, now you're trying to remove references to it. There was no reference to Xterm Mouse mode in anti.texi; anti.texi just gave the impression to describe the default behavior. * On an xterm, Emacs provides a more convincing simulation of a text terminal by being unable to respond to mouse-clicks on the mode-line, header-line, or display margin. Still same problems: no reference to Xterm Mouse mode and still seems to describe default behavior. Some other stuff in anti.texi seems out of date too. I propose the following changes to anti.texi and I can install them, if desired. ===File ~/anti.texi-diff==================================== *** anti.texi 30 Oct 2005 08:25:39 -0600 1.32 --- anti.texi 24 Jan 2006 20:14:51 -0600 *************** *** 34,42 **** onto an Emacs window, nothing will happen. @item ! On an xterm, Emacs provides a more convincing simulation of a text ! terminal by not responding to mouse-clicks on the mode-line, ! header-line, or display margin. @item For simplicity, windows always have fringes. We wouldn't want to --- 34,40 ---- onto an Emacs window, nothing will happen. @item ! The minor mode Xterm Mouse mode is no longer available. @item For simplicity, windows always have fringes. We wouldn't want to *************** *** 88,95 **** the @code{setenv} command does not expand @samp{$} at all. @item ! Emacs will not query you if a command accumulates too much undo ! information. If Emacs runs out of memory as a result, it will handle this by crashing. @item --- 86,93 ---- the @code{setenv} command does not expand @samp{$} at all. @item ! If a single command accumulates too much undo information, Emacs never ! discards it. If Emacs runs out of memory as a result, it will handle this by crashing. @item *************** *** 131,139 **** equivalent to typing them once. @kbd{M-h} ignores numeric arguments. @item ! If you want to repeat a jump to a previous mark, you should supply the ! prefix argument explicitly. So, instead of typing @kbd{C-u C-SPC ! C-SPC C-SPC}, type @kbd{C-u C-SPC C-u C-SPC C-u C-SPC}. @item @kbd{C-@key{SPC} C-@key{SPC}} has no special meaning--it just sets the --- 129,135 ---- equivalent to typing them once. @kbd{M-h} ignores numeric arguments. @item ! The user option @code{set-mark-command-repeat-pop} has been removed. @item @kbd{C-@key{SPC} C-@key{SPC}} has no special meaning--it just sets the *************** *** 261,267 **** The Kmacro package has been replaced with a simple and elegant keyboard macro system. Use @kbd{C-x (} to start a new keyboard macro, @kbd{C-x )} to end the macro, and @kbd{C-x e} to execute the last ! macro. @item The Calc, CUA, GDB-UI, Ibuffer, Ido, Password, Printing, Reveal, --- 257,264 ---- The Kmacro package has been replaced with a simple and elegant keyboard macro system. Use @kbd{C-x (} to start a new keyboard macro, @kbd{C-x )} to end the macro, and @kbd{C-x e} to execute the last ! macro. Use @kbd{M-x name-last-kbd-macro} to name the most recently ! defined macro. @item The Calc, CUA, GDB-UI, Ibuffer, Ido, Password, Printing, Reveal, ============================================================