From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Document option tool-bar-mode Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:58:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512180258.jBI2wrO21007@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <22534.1134868813@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134874975 2337 80.91.229.2 (18 Dec 2005 03:02:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 18 04:02:52 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Enon7-00046P-QW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 04:00:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Enont-0007FN-Mk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Enoni-0007FH-9e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Enong-0007F5-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Enong-0007F2-IS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:01:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EnoqN-0004B0-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:04:16 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBI30dAc023441; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:00:39 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBI2wrO21007; Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:58:53 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: wohler@newt.com In-reply-to: <22534.1134868813@olgas.newt.com> (message from Bill Wohler on Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:20:13 -0800) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:00:39 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47976 Archived-At: Bill Wohler wrote: You can turn display of tool bars on or off with @kbd{M-x -tool-bar-mode}. +tool-bar-mode} or by customizing the option @samp{tool-bar-mode}. The two things above are described as equivalent, but they are not. The first is strictly for the current session, the second is usually meant to be permanent. It is @code{tool-bar-mode}, not @samp. `customizing' is ambiguous. It does not consistently refer to the Customize interface, but is often used in a more general sense. I prefer the following patch, where the word `variable' still could be replaced by `option', depending on what we decide in another discussion. It only talks about turning toolbars _off_ permanently, because they are enabled by default in all situations where they make sense. You can turn display of tool bars on or off with @kbd{M-x tool-bar-mode}. You can turn tool bars permanently off by putting the line @code{(tool-bar-mode 0)} in your @file{.emacs} file, or by saving the variable @code{tool-bar-mode} through the Customize interface. Sincerely, Luc.