From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize-apropos Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:33:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512150533.jBF5Xk027595@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134624981 29669 80.91.229.2 (15 Dec 2005 05:36:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 15 06:36:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmlmH-0000Q2-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:35:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Emlmt-0008Ja-I6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Emlmj-0008IO-6k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Emlmg-0008H5-Es for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:36:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Emlmg-0008H2-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:36:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Emlor-0008MM-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBF5ZOc4013658; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:35:24 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBF5Xk027595; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:33:46 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: drew.adams@oracle.com In-reply-to: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:35:24 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47778 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: Wrt the doc and C-u behavior - are we now in the game of "You can do this; DON'T do it!!"? If so, I have nothing special to offer on how best to say that. I would suggest, instead, to pick one or the other. Experts don't need this (C-u) any more than regular users. Richard decided to keep the numeric arg. That is fine with me. If Richard changes his mind and decides to get rid of it, that is fine with me too. I do not care either way. That numeric arg has been around for quite some time and maybe somebody might have gotten used to it. In as far as I am concerned, that is the main argument for keeping it. I do not believe that the numeric arg is really useful (it is just a confusing alternative to apropos-variable), but it does no real harm either. Unless somebody uses it for no other reason that they do not know about apropos-variable. That is why I proposed my patch pointing out in the docstrings that in most cases using `apropos-variable' is more useful than using the numeric arg to `customize-apropos'. If Richard believes that this patch is a good idea, I will install it. Otherwise, we can just leave everything as it is right now. Sincerely, Luc.