From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize-apropos Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:58:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512140558.jBE5wSE17586@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134540136 21038 80.91.229.2 (14 Dec 2005 06:02:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 07:02:07 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from [199.232.75.2] (helo=lists.gnu.org) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmPgr-0005LT-1l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:00:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmPhP-0008W8-VX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EmPh1-0008Kq-Pb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:00:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EmPgz-0008Id-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:00:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmPgz-0008IQ-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:00:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EmPiz-0004I0-BL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:02:50 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBE604XS010086; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:00:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBE5wSE17586; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:58:28 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: drew.adams@oracle.com In-reply-to: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:00:04 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name found for IP address 199.232.75.2 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47681 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: Using a documented `C-u' with a standard command is not some bizarre expert behavior. If this is not intended for users, then let's get rid of the `C-u' option. I vote to keep it and clarify the Custom-buffer messages accordingly, but if people think this `C-u' behavior is something for experts only, then let's get rid of it. Because you can use a prefix arg does not mean that you have to use it. Would the following patch help clear up your misconceptions? ===File ~/cus-edit-diff===================================== *** cus-edit.el 12 Dec 2005 21:36:47 -0600 1.247 --- cus-edit.el 13 Dec 2005 23:54:56 -0600 *************** *** 1257,1263 **** If ALL is `faces', include only faces. If ALL is `groups', include only groups. If ALL is t (interactively, with prefix arg), include variables ! that are not customizable options, as well as faces and groups." (interactive "sCustomize regexp: \nP") (let ((found nil)) (mapatoms (lambda (symbol) --- 1257,1265 ---- If ALL is `faces', include only faces. If ALL is `groups', include only groups. If ALL is t (interactively, with prefix arg), include variables ! that are not customizable options, as well as faces and groups. ! \(In most situations, using `apropos-variable', with or without ! prefix arg, is more useful than using a prefix arg for this function.)" (interactive "sCustomize regexp: \nP") (let ((found nil)) (mapatoms (lambda (symbol) *************** *** 1285,1291 **** ;;;###autoload (defun customize-apropos-options (regexp &optional arg) "Customize all loaded customizable options matching REGEXP. ! With prefix arg, include variables that are not customizable options." (interactive "sCustomize regexp: \nP") (customize-apropos regexp (or arg 'options))) --- 1287,1294 ---- ;;;###autoload (defun customize-apropos-options (regexp &optional arg) "Customize all loaded customizable options matching REGEXP. ! With prefix arg, include variables that are not customizable options. ! \(In most situations, using `apropos-variable', with or without ! prefix arg, is more useful than using a prefix arg for this function.)" (interactive "sCustomize regexp: \nP") (customize-apropos regexp (or arg 'options))) ============================================================