From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize-apropos Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:40:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512140340.jBE3erw17431@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134531816 30558 80.91.229.2 (14 Dec 2005 03:43:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 14 04:43:33 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from [199.232.75.2] (helo=lists.gnu.org) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmNXs-0000KC-Bu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:43:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmNYR-0006JV-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:43:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EmNXr-000666-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:43:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EmNXn-00063o-G7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:43:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EmNXm-00063d-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:43:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EmNZm-0003p7-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBE3gTT7009850; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:42:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBE3erw17431; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:40:53 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: drew.adams@oracle.com In-reply-to: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:42:29 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Broken-Reverse-DNS: no host name found for IP address 199.232.75.2 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47670 Archived-At: This message is shown if someone does `C-u M-x customize-apropos' - that's what we're discussing, right? Yes. Actually, it is shown in four situations: 1. As a result of a bug in some code. (This is by far the most likely situation) 2. If somebody uses C-M-c in the minibuffer (RET or C-j will not work) to get around the minibuffer completion functions which are designed to prevent such variables from being shown in a Custom buffer, unless the user is savvy enough to know how to override these completion functions. 3. If the user calls M-x customize-variable or friends from Lisp instead of interactively, again in an attempt to override the completion functions. 4. If somebody uses an obscure numeric arg, meant for expert users, to customize-apropos. These are all marginal situations. We are talking about some very marginal aspect of Custom here, that is only going to be used _intentionally_ by experts. Sincerely, Luc.