From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: customize-apropos Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:45:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512130045.jBD0jnl08038@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134435338 27476 80.91.229.2 (13 Dec 2005 00:55:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:55:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 01:55:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElyRi-0001vG-Ps for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:55:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElySE-0008UO-Pp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:55:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElyKk-0003Lf-U9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:47:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElyKi-0003L5-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:47:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElyKh-0003Ky-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:47:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElyMV-000125-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:49:47 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBD0lM2M005731; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:47:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBD0jnl08038; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:45:49 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: drew.adams@oracle.com In-reply-to: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:47:22 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47586 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: But current policy also shows non-customizable variables if you use the numeric arg. I have already told you: this is not a policy, but a way to _override_ a policy. The _default_ behavior (no numeric arg) is the policy. (If not, Richard can correct me.) I kept the numeric arg just so if anybody, for any reason whatsoever, had gotten used to it, they would still be able to use it (although I seriously doubt that this applies to a lot of people). That numeric argument is an *obscure unimportant detail*. Let us just stop worrying about it. Your suggested replacement text is incorrect. If you really know what you are doing, you _can_, up to a point, customize these variables in the Custom buffer. I take your word for it (but tell me how; I'm curious). Just use the State button and then Set or Save. Both work. I also believe that the usefulness of this feature for advanced users is limited. I have never used it except out of curiosity. I'm not clear on which feature you're referring to. The feature that you can customize any variable defined with defvar (with or without leading `*') in a Custom buffer (although not all usual features will work). We are discussing the obscure fringes of Custom now. It do not believe that it is not worth spending a lot of time on this. Sincerely, Luc.