From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 22:07:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512100407.jBA47xW17171@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <85wtioxn3p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87u0dq5sm3.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <85vey6njlr.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134187882 3053 80.91.229.2 (10 Dec 2005 04:11:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: romain@orebokech.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 10 05:11:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ekw3Y-0004MQ-3Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:09:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ekw3u-0002UB-PS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ekw3W-0002Tu-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:09:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ekw3V-0002TE-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ekw3U-0002T4-WD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ekw4m-0007Qb-DA; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:11:12 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jBA49QIW020806; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 22:09:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jBA47xW17171; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 22:07:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:09:26 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47364 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: Does this make it clearer? Index: startup.el =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/lisp/startup.el,v retrieving revision 1.390 diff -c -c -r1.390 startup.el *** startup.el 22 Nov 2005 03:32:50 -0000 1.390 --- startup.el 4 Dec 2005 04:07:51 -0000 What happened to this? This was five days ago, just before this thread started veering off on a wild and completely unrelated tangent. I believe that actually more doc (or code) changes are needed. Setting `inhibit-startup-message' to t seems to have as a consequence that `initial-scratch-message' gets ignored: the *scratch* buffer starts out empty, no matter what. Is this intentional? The docstrings of neither `inhibit-startup-message' nor `initial-scratch-message' mention this. If the behavior would be intentional, then I believe that both docstrings should mention this. I was very surprised when I noticed. Sincerely, Luc.