From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:15:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512092315.jB9NFAn16887@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200512072338.jB7Ncmha031445@brains.moreideas.ca> <200512090225.jB92PWG11550@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134170329 31657 80.91.229.2 (9 Dec 2005 23:18:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 23:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, emacs@whaite.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 10 00:18:48 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkrU2-0003aT-2O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:16:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkrUO-00045P-BZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:17:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkrU8-000440-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:17:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EkrU6-00042J-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EkrU5-00042A-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EkrVL-0003rq-JO; Fri, 09 Dec 2005 18:18:19 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB9NGaK4018961; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:16:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jB9NFAn16887; Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:15:10 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:16:37 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47354 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: One cannot expect a single line always to completely describe a topic. The aim of the manual (and each part of it) is to be helpful--not particularly to be complete. My objection against the text: How to save customizations in a different file. is not that it is incomplete, but that it is misleading. It suggests that anybody who is happy with Custom writing into .emacs should just skip that node. If the paragraph I quoted is unnecessary for people using .emacs, then it would also be unnecessary for people using another Custom file. Also, suggesting that the entire node is about saving in a file other than .emacs makes a possible source of confusion even worse: If Emacs was invoked with the `-q' or `--no-init-file' options (*note Initial Options::), it will not let you save your customizations in your `~/.emacs' init file. This is because saving customizations from such a session would wipe out all the other customizations you might have on your init file. In a section about saving in a file _other_ than `~/.emacs', the above paragraph seems to imply that customizing in a different file is a good way to save customizations, even if you used `emacs -q', because, if you use `~/.emacs', you can not do it (but if you use another file, you presumably can). Sincerely, Luc.