From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:46:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200512072346.jB7NkSt03739@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200512071737.jB7HbsRa003345@brains.moreideas.ca> <878xuwk466.fsf@jurta.org> <4397647B.5030504@student.lu.se> <200512072321.jB7NLMR03715@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <43977103.2080300@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133999391 20699 80.91.229.2 (7 Dec 2005 23:49:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 08 00:49:50 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek918-0008Nz-6B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:48:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek91O-0008BD-59 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:48:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek91F-0008B7-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:48:17 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek91F-0008Au-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:48:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek91E-0008Ar-Vt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:48:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ek927-0005mh-Na; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:49:12 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jB7NloDe029786; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:47:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id jB7NkSt03739; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:46:28 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se In-reply-to: <43977103.2080300@student.lu.se> (message from Lennart Borgman on Thu, 08 Dec 2005 00:32:19 +0100) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.1 (manatee.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.104]); Wed, 07 Dec 2005 17:47:50 -0600 (CST) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47181 Archived-At: I made that temporary to get some feed back on it. The link was put in on explicit request of people who objected against programs writing in their init files. It makes little sense to put in the button each time somebody asks for it and remove it each time somebody suggests to remove it. It is perhaps not so easy to find in the documentation that the "help" links open, but a slight change there would make it easy. Some people want to know straight offhand that they can save in a different file if they want to. Peter also suggested removing the "custom file" link. On the ground that it was useless for beginners. But a dislike for programs writing into your initialization files has nothing to do with how long you have been using Emacs. People want to know that information _before_ they start using Custom. So we are actually talking about complete beginners in as far as Custom is concerned. Sincerely, Luc. 2