From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Whaite Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:37:54 -0500 Message-ID: <200512071737.jB7HbsRa003345@brains.moreideas.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133982187 28098 80.91.229.2 (7 Dec 2005 19:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, cyd@stupidchicken.com, jasonr@gnu.org, zedek@gnu-rox.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 07 20:03:04 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek4XI-0005Ic-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 20:01:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek4XX-0004OE-L1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 14:01:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3Fh-0004Ip-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:38:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3Fg-0004IF-4D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:38:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3Ff-0004I7-H5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:38:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.5.194.99] (helo=berlinr.sprint.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ek3GK-0008Cj-Gr; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:39:28 -0500 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca ([149.99.156.72]) by berlinr.sprint.ca (InterMail vM.5.01.02.00 201-253-122-103-101-20001108) with ESMTP id <20051207173803.BCOJ11555.berlinr.sprint.ca@brains.moreideas.ca>; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:38:03 -0500 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by brains.moreideas.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id jB7Hbs6u003352; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:37:54 -0500 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca (peta@localhost) by brains.moreideas.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id jB7HbsRa003345; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:37:54 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: Message from Luc Teirlinck of "Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:11:41 CST." <200512070011.jB70BfW27944@raven.dms.auburn.edu> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.85+cvs; nmh 1.0.4; GNU Emacs 22.0.50.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47139 Archived-At: Luc Teirlinck wrote: > > with "Custom" and "Help" being raised buttons, what else would you > expect clicking on these buttons to do than follow links to > documentation? Its not clear, because the second sentence says: `Raised' buttons show active fields; type RET or click mouse-1 on an active field to invoke its action. and I dont know what an "active field" is, and I've no idea what its action would be. Yes I will click it and try because it looks like a button. That sentence should be deleted -- it contains no useful information. The line: Invoke Custom file for information on how to save in a different file. should be deleted. Its only of interest to expert users, and they can find it easily in the Help. "Invoke" is something a programmer would say. It is much better to write: See Help for more information. It would be better if 'Help' were underlined to emphasize that its a link. People understand links and it looks better. However it is not a big deal if the widget library (of which I am ignorant) prevents it being done easily. With the changes I'm suggesting you end up with the following preamble: This is a customization buffer for group Emacs. Editing an option value changes only the text in the buffer. The State button can be used to set or save the option value. Saving an option normally edits your init file. See Help for more information. I think thats a significant improvement, and its easy to do. -- Peter Whaite