From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:51:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200510130051.j9D0pMC16110@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87fyr77paq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200510112320.j9BNKDn09363@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1129164923 22310 80.91.229.2 (13 Oct 2005 00:55:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 02:55:20 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EPrMC-0003dk-J5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 02:54:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EPrMB-00061w-Ul for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EPrM2-00061r-Sw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EPrM1-00061f-Eb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EPrM1-00061c-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EPrKs-00013B-0D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:53:53 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j9D0qEZ1027505; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:52:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j9D0pMC16110; Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:51:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: cs-usenet@arcor.de In-reply-to: (message from Christian Schlauer on Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:33:22 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43957 Archived-At: Christian Schlauer wrote: But do you read them in the echo area? I disabled tooltip-mode, but I'm not used to move my eyes up and down between the mouse pointer somewhere in the buffer to the corresponding tooltip displayed in the echo area. This is really inconvenient, IMHO. I personally do not find it inconvenient. Emacs displays many messages in the echo area that are worth reading, even if tooltip-mode is enabled. So I am used to pay attention to that area. Moreover, if something changes on my screen while everything else stays static, my eyes automatically seem to shift to the area that changed anyway. For me this is pretty much an automatic reaction. There is no conscious effort involved. Sincerely, Luc.