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From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: Info on define-minor-mode - :init-valueor :initial-value?]
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:02:00 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200507310102.j6V120625623@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Dz10R-0002a4-7L@fencepost.gnu.org> (rms@gnu.org)

Richard Stallman wrote:

   If we can't arrange to make just the defcustom do the job, documenting
   this method is ok with me.

   Perhaps we should document a simple way and a complex way.  The simple
   way is that it all gets done by the :set function when the defcustom's
   expansion is executed.  That requires putting the defcustom after the
   minor mode function and generating a defvar before the function.
   You'd use custom-initialize-reset.

   For cases which are more complex, you'd use custom-initialize-default
   and then write (if foo-mode (foo-mode 1)) at the end of the file.

If we are willing to change define-minor-mode, then I do not believe
that there is any need for the more complex method, unless there is
some reason why the define-minor-mode can not be delayed until all
functions called by the minor mode have been defined.

If we make define-minor-mode write a compiler defvar, then define the
mode function and then write the defcustom, one can use
custom-initialize-set if the define-minor-mode is not autoloaded, and
custom-initialize-reset if it is to be autoloaded.  Actually,
custom-initialize-reset is relatively harmless for the default
define-minor-mode :set function.  (The problems I was referring to
concern non minor mode :set functions, as I pointed out in my other
message.)

Sincerely,

Luc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-07-31  1:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-27 14:57 [drew.adams@oracle.com: Info on define-minor-mode - :init-value or :initial-value?] Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-27 16:04 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-28 16:58   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-28 17:43     ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: Info on define-minor-mode - :init-valueor :initial-value?] Drew Adams
2005-07-29  2:56       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-30 23:44         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-31  0:43           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-31 14:58             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-01  0:45             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-08-01  1:47               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-08-01  5:33               ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-08-01 16:46                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-31  1:02           ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-08-01  0:45             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-29 15:59       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-29 17:43         ` Drew Adams
2005-07-30  4:22         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-30 13:58           ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: Info on define-minor-mode -:init-valueor :initial-value?] Drew Adams
2005-07-30 21:46             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-29  1:48     ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: Info on define-minor-mode - :init-value or :initial-value?] Luc Teirlinck
2005-07-29 17:10       ` Stefan Monnier

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