From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: obsolete comment in tool-bar.el Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:04:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200507160204.j6G24XE13583@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200507071915.j67JFZT29961@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200507090235.j692ZER04883@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200507110321.j6B3LgG09526@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <85y88dfcqw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <200507130302.j6D32qE05640@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200507140208.j6E28tr08794@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200507141830.j6EIU5r11167@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <878y08k857.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200507151353.j6FDrMf12755@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121480725 20177 80.91.229.2 (16 Jul 2005 02:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 16 04:25:16 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DtcMF-0003ES-Ib for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 04:24:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DtcO3-0000UN-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DtcNr-0000Tm-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DtcNo-0000Sk-U2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:26:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DtcNA-0008Rl-UU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:25:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DtcBC-00016Z-6Y; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6G24iCK010290; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j6G24XE13583; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:04:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:44:20 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40977 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40977 >>From my previous message: So, to do what the comment says, we should replace the default :initialize for minor modes from 'custom-initialize-default to 'custom-initialize-set. Well actually, one might need to replace `custom-initialize-default' with a new :initialize function, custom-initialize-mode or something, that does nothing if the variable is already bound, initializes the option to nil using set-default if the variable is bound and the init-value is nil, but calls the :set function if the variable is bound and init-value is non-nil. Sincerely, Luc.