From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mmaug@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:57:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200505291657.j4TGvA811658@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200505281924.j4SJOav09582@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87br6unodf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117385807 16123 80.91.229.2 (29 May 2005 16:56:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 29 18:56:43 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DcR57-0004re-8D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 May 2005 18:56:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DcR9o-0007Td-UQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:01:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DcR9N-0007N2-5X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:00:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DcR9K-0007KS-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:00:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DcR9K-0007K5-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2005 13:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DcR7w-0000yy-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 May 2005 12:59:04 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j4TGvdCK020505; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:57:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j4TGvA811658; Sun, 29 May 2005 11:57:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: <87br6unodf.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 29 May 2005 09:40:13 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37860 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37860 Stefan Monnier wrote: If at all possible, please use define-derived-mode which results in cleaner code and neatly hides those details. The problem is that rewriting a mode to use define-derived-mode has to be done carefully and takes time. Otherwise, there is the risk of introducing bugs. On the other hand, enclosing the parent mode inside a delay-mode-hooks is so completely routine and quick that it can be done right after one notices the problem. This is important, since there may be a lot of these problems out there. Rewriting the mode to use define-derived-mode can always be done later when one has more time and has no other, more urgent, things to do. Sincerely, Luc.