From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: define-derived-mode Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 22:15:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200505080315.j483F2l24405@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200505080101.j48117N24298@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115522461 4638 80.91.229.2 (8 May 2005 03:21:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 03:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 08 05:20:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUcLU-0001PN-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 May 2005 05:20:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUcTX-0001OR-Dh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 23:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DUcTP-0001O8-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 23:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DUcTO-0001Ne-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 23:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUcO4-0007S0-79 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 23:23:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DUcM0-0000CT-Sm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 23:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j483FQog006108; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j483F2l24405; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:15:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu In-reply-to: <200505080101.j48117N24298@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sat, 7 May 2005 20:01:07 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36847 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36847 >>From my previous message: I am not really sure that it is such a great idea to have `define-minor-mode' and `define-generic-mode' spew out all these automatic defcustoms, but given that they do that, it seems rather strange and inconsistent that `define-derived-mode' does not. If one would make it construct defcustoms, then maybe that should only happen if the :group keyword is given, so it would not get into the same default group problems as `define-{minor,generic}-mode'. Sincerely, Luc.