From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: defvaralias Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:43:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200505061543.j46FhNI11852@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200505060142.j461gYF08458@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <17018.62209.92386.375984@farnswood.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115396956 28872 80.91.229.2 (6 May 2005 16:29:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 06 18:29:14 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU5gl-00053O-DW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 18:28:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU5oV-0002G2-VH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DU5Rb-0006MR-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DU5RZ-0006MD-I5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DU5Pf-0005Cz-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 12:10:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DU54j-0002dc-8Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2005 11:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j46Fhiog027229; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:43:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j46FhNI11852; Fri, 6 May 2005 10:43:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: nickrob@snap.net.nz In-reply-to: <17018.62209.92386.375984@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Fri, 6 May 2005 16:30:57 +1200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36760 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36760 Nick Roberts wrote: As Stefan has pointed out defvaralias has a symmetry in its arguments Looking at the old message, I believe that what Stefan said is that in defvaralias (unlike in `define-obsolete-variable-alias'), there are no "old" and "new" variables or "obsolete" and "updated" variables. (With which I agree.) But that is not the same as saying that there is symmetry. The asymmetry in the relation is that one is the alias, the other the base variable. Sincerely, Luc.