From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: should xterm-mouse-mode be on by default? Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <200504130208.j3D28AX19838@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200504130141.j3D1fpAH016515@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113358123 6899 80.91.229.2 (13 Apr 2005 02:08:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 13 04:08:42 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLXIl-0001d9-Jm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:08:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLWtC-0007uh-4s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:41:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DLWsv-0007mf-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:41:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DLWsr-0007ig-Q7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DLWsr-0007iN-LZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:41:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DLXKP-0007VT-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j3D29l9N019030; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:09:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j3D28AX19838; Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:08:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: dann@ics.uci.edu In-reply-to: <200504130141.j3D1fpAH016515@scanner2.ics.uci.edu> (message from Dan Nicolaescu on Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:41:48 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35918 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35918 A lot of users use these features, so IMO it is not a good idea to turn on xterm-mouse-mode by default at this point. I was the one who enabled Xterm Mouse mode by default. But I did it on request, because I knew how to do it without confusing Custom. I personally recommended against it, because of problems similar to the ones you cite, as well as other problems. Obviously, I could easily revert my changes if Richard would change his mind on the issue. Sincerely, Luc.