From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Han Boetes Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:21:05 +0200 Message-ID: <20050407092126.GM15412@boetes.org> References: <200504020351.j323ppS16391@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <16974.11752.332998.125628@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200504021346.j32Dk3e19471@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <16978.12100.857894.861739@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <200504060000.j3600bm15264@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112865816 29285 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 09:23:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 09:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 11:23:32 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJTEA-0004o3-In for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:23:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSnR-00055Q-5e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:55:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSly-0004m0-FR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJSly-0004ih-5x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 04:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [82.73.222.20] (helo=boetes.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJTCs-0001NN-46 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:21:46 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 913 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Apr 2005 09:21:27 -0000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35685 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35685 Kim F. Storm wrote: > Does Emacs run on those systems? > > The "Linux kernel console" -- as the user sees it on a GNU/Linux > system-- is typically just a process started by the kernel which > runs "/bin/sh". > > So when the user interacts with the console, he is interacting > with GNU software (e.g. bash), not the kernel. In that case I am running BSD/Linux, since I removed bash and replaced it with the much lighter and faster ash. :-) Here is the buildrecepy for people who are interested how I did that: http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/crux/han/ash/Pkgfile I did notice a lot of bashism's in various scripts, though I must admit that I didn't find many of them in GNU software. head /usr/bin/ldd # bug reported. The beauty of *nix is that all parts are interchangeble and therefor I want to encourage people to write scripts that work with a POSIX compliant shell like ash. Yes bash also is POSIX compliant, but it also supports a lot more, even in sh-mode. In the long run this works like embrace and extend. I can't recommend end-users to replace bash with ash at the moment since there are simply too many places where bashisms are used. And that's not how it should be. # Han