From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: file-name-shadow-mode Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:18:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200503201618.j2KGI9d04948@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200503180435.j2I4Z2R18621@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87is3p5zp2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200503191521.j2JFL8901509@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87r7ibziw6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200503200214.j2K2Efh03044@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87acoyxvf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111336476 28985 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 16:34:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 17:34:35 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD3N9-0007QP-Pw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:33:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD3e5-0007tL-5y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:51:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD3a8-0006cf-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:47:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD3a2-0006bX-2r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD3a0-0006Sn-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:47:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DD38b-0005Dw-2H; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:18:49 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2KGIi9N024739; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:18:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2KGI9d04948; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:18:09 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: <87acoyxvf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:13:13 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34826 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34826 SDtefan Monnier wrote: So I think it's best to keep the :init value at nil _Only_ if one would decide to keep the default value nil too. in which case there is no problem. The value given in the defcustom *needs* to be the real default value. Otherwise "Erase Customization" in Custom produces a bug. and then elsewhere do a customize-set-variable (in startup.el, in loadup.el, or even at the end of rfn-shadow.el). Definitely not in rfn-eshadow.el, because then reloading the file _would_ have an effect. Sincerely, Luc.