From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: file-name-shadow-mode Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:02:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200503201602.j2KG2Of04932@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200503180435.j2I4Z2R18621@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87is3p5zp2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200503191521.j2JFL8901509@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87r7ibziw6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <200503200214.j2K2Efh03044@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87acoyxvf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111334781 24798 80.91.229.2 (20 Mar 2005 16:06:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:06:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 20 17:06:21 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD2wL-0004fg-SB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:06:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD3DF-0008MM-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:23:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD38m-0007E7-8a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:19:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DD38V-00074l-FG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:18:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DD38T-00073k-Un for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:18:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DD2tR-0003zZ-B0; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:03:09 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2KG2x9N024699; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:02:59 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j2KG2Of04932; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:02:24 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: <87acoyxvf7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:13:13 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34823 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34823 Stefan Monnier wrote: This is because if the minor mode's code needs to be run to properly set the value, you can't run it safely before the whole file is loaded (since the minor mode's code might call functions defined further down in the file). That is not really different from any other defcustom with a :set function: you have to define all functions used by the :set function before the defcustom. Sometimes these functions themselves refer to the defcustomed variable. Then you have to do: (defvar var) defun's (defcustom var... to avoid compiler warnings. Note that if you do (defvar foo (bar ...)), then bar has to be defined before foo too. I do not see where the problem is. Sincerely, Luc.