From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is that change a good idea? Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:24:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20050318082442.GA4710@kenny.sha-bang.local> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111134331 28070 80.91.229.2 (18 Mar 2005 08:25:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 09:25:31 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCCnN-0005kL-6A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:25:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCD3p-0002ct-4g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:42:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCD3V-0002ZW-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:42:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DCD3O-0002WJ-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:41:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DCD3N-0002Vf-Dl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:41:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.141.58.119] (helo=km1136.keymachine.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DCCmk-0007Qp-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 03:24:46 -0500 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdslh240.osnanet.de [212.95.107.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by km1136.keymachine.de (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2I8OfJk028402 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:24:41 +0100 Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Kenny MUA v.0409034.42) ID 1DCCmg-0001Gk-Qw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:24:42 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-wieners-gbr-MailScanner-Information: MailScanner presented by www.wieners-gbr.de X-wieners-gbr-MailScanner: Nachricht wurde nicht auf Viren und Spam untersucht, sprechen Sie uns an: www.wieners-gbr.de. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34708 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34708 On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 05:16:41PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > * help.el (describe-mode): Allow a :minor-mode-function property to > > specify a different minor mode toggle function than the variable. > > * simple.el (auto-fill-function): > > * subr.el (add-minor-mode): Use it. > > > I have my doubts that the resulting flexibility is really in the best > > interest of the users... > > 100% agreement. > It's only meant to clean up the code, Wouldn't it be far more cleaner to convert old minor-modes which would need this hack to proper minor-modes following standard semantics? > not as a new feature. I would guess: when its there, it will be used... btw. I posted a patch, convertinge auto-fill-function to a standard minor-mode (thus addressing the same problem) earlier this week, but got no response -- was it _that_ bad? cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde : "Lies, was ich meine, nicht, was ich schreibe." : (Urs Traenkner in de.alt.admin)