From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Suggested doc change for cus-edit.el Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:19:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200502150419.j1F4JMK06289@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108442296 24492 80.91.229.2 (15 Feb 2005 04:38:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 15 05:38:16 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0uTR-00013W-Ct for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:38:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0uj6-0002XO-Vl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:54:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0uiH-0002BS-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:53:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ui9-00027s-4L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:53:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D0ui7-00024w-Vf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:53:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D0uDE-0006Ej-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1F4L99N006600; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:21:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j1F4JMK06289; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:19:22 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33449 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33449 In cus-edit.el we see: ;; 6. rogue ;; There are no standard value. There are two problems with this. The lesser of the two is that this does not appear to be grammatically correct. The second, less trivial one is that the situation, as described, appears to be impossible: ;; 4. The standard value. ;; This is the value given in the 'defcustom' declaration. As (defcustom foo) is illegal, it would seem that there _always_ is a standard value. So this needs to be clarified. What about: ;; 6. rogue ;; Custom has no properly stored record of the standard value. I could install this, if desired. Or does it mean that there is no defcustom? I have the impression that Custom completely _ignores_ variables without defcustom. To try I put: '(aha "oho") in my `custom-set-variables' form and Custom seems to completely ignore it. M-x customize-option RET aha RET says: [No match]. I do not get a Custom buffer with 'aha marked as rogue. Sincerely, Luc.